Welby still can’t read the room

Oh well- some movement. Failure to report child abuse should eventually become the same as failure to report money laundering. Why has it taken so long is my question? I guess it’s all about societal values and money laundering is clearly of more importance than child safety. Gulp. Let’s hope that the structure for reporting and follow up is in place and robust.

Though I think has been said before, he did report it.
He didnt follow it up enough.
If I have got that right.

Good.

That should have been done always.

Under legislation announced by Yvette Cooper for a bill in the spring (amongst other measures) professionals who work with children will face criminal sanctions if they fail to report claims of child sexual abuse.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jan/06/yvette-cooper-says-she-will-force-professionals-to-report-child-sexual-abuse-claims

pascal30

Aveline

Oh dear. Well at least he's left. Obviously not apologetic at all.

I didn't notice an apology in his leaving speech.. I don't think he is sorry or feels responsible for his lack of action..

He didn't make an apology. Just treated it as Comedy Night at the local pub. Lots of chortling from the line of male Bishops sat behind him. The only one showing any sign of discomfort was the female Bishop of London who sat with her head in her hands.

Aveline

Oh dear. Well at least he's left. Obviously not apologetic at all.

I didn't notice an apology in his leaving speech.. I don't think he is sorry or feels responsible for his lack of action..

fancythat

I also question whether there is a wider issue.
Though this may not be the thread to discuss it.

Are people in general, promoted, precisely because they "dont read the room"?
That leaders nowadays are expected the guard the name of an organisation, regardless of anything and anyone else?

Yes.
The Post Office is another example.

Luckygirl3

One could ignore the lot of them if it were not for the fact that young people have suffered and our constitution puts a gang of them in positions of power in our government system - it is a disgrace. That is not democracy.

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I also question whether there is a wider issue.
Though this may not be the thread to discuss it.

Are people in general, promoted, precisely because they "dont read the room"?
That leaders nowadays are expected the guard the name of an organisation, regardless of anything and anyone else?

Which I think, personally, is all part of the demise of Christianity in the Country.

We need Leaders who are doing things Biblically correct.

Oreo

A lot of these senior clergy seem to live in a different realm to anyone else, serenely drifting along to the beat of their own drum.

Absolutely.
And not just Church of England, sadly.

all about self!

One could ignore the lot of them if it were not for the fact that young people have suffered and our constitution puts a gang of them in positions of power in our government system - it is a disgrace. That is not democracy.

A lot of these senior clergy seem to live in a different realm to anyone else, serenely drifting along to the beat of their own drum.

Stephen Cottrell, Archbishop of York has taken over most of Welby's duties. Cottrell is as guilty as Welby. I would not be in the least surprised if he becomes Archbishop of Canterbury. The police are apparently investigating whether there should be criminal charges brought in light of the Makin Report, but l think that'll be negative. Members of Church of England are mocking morality by not bringing their bishops to account.

Oh dear. Well at least he's left. Obviously not apologetic at all.

His judgement seems really off doesn't it? Looked at in the kindest light, I have wondered if he is developing some cognitive issues that are clouding his ability to recognise that this is not an appropriate way to behave? Though it doesn't excuse those advising him.