A Note to Elon Musk

No, she's saying all men are involved with rape and child sexual abuse.

Babs03

Well last year in September Musk voiced an interest in a Republic of high status alpha males, which is exactly as Andrew Tate refers to some men, presumably himself included. In this republic women and low testosterone males would not be permitted to take part in any thought processes required in the running if such a republic.
So, yeah, a man who has a high regard for women…NOT.

Well last year in September Musk voiced an interest in a Republic of high status alpha males, which is exactly as Andrew Tate refers to some men,...

Yes, Musk thought that was "interesting" so he amplified it the post by an account called "Autism Capital" which included a screenshot of a theory that referred to "people who can't defend themselves physically (women and low T men)," suggesting they are "very malleable to brute force manufactured consensus."

The post, from September 1, said that only "high T alpha males and aneurotypical people" are able to question new information, concluding, "This is why a Republic of high status males is best for decision making. Democratic, but a democracy only for those who are free to think."

The post was labelled "The Reich Effect", and was (I think) originally posted on 4chan some time previously.

Are you aware of the 4chan imageboard Babs03? It deserves thread of its own...

Anyway, it's garnered over 18 million views, but, I'm sure it's simply in the interests of 'free speech' and Musk doesn't really believe that women, and men who are not high-status alpha males are incapable of forming their own opinions.

You know, journalists, reporters, etc, in the mainstream media that Musk appears to despise and dismiss, usually - when they are going to make savage and critical claim against a person or an institution, etc, attempt to get their side of the story - you know, just in case they've missed a fact or two... Musk doesn't. He just launches an attack.

But, hey, he's just pushing ideas right?

I’m not sure what the poster MaizieD is trying to do with that post?
Is he/she saying Pakistani men aren’t involved in child rape?
Really weird post.

MaizieD

Here are some known and prosecuted members of child abuse gangs. Spot the Pakistani...

The Jay investigation and report highlighted that the Rotherham grooming gangs were predominantly Pakistani heritage men.Fact.
There were many others in various cities and towns that were the same, Oldham and Oxford amongst them.
Not wanting to talk about this racial aspect was the problem in all the cases at the time and maybe still is.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/elon-musk-andrew-tate-4chan-x-twitter-high-status-males-b2606622.html

Well last year in September Musk voiced an interest in a Republic of high status alpha males, which is exactly as Andrew Tate refers to some men, presumably himself included. In this republic women and low testosterone males would not be permitted to take part in any thought processes required in the running if such a republic.
So, yeah, a man who has a high regard for women…NOT.

Maremia

Whitewavemark2, excellent post, and now the Security Services are checking his output to see if it breaches our laws.

And just what will happen? Are they wanting to extradite him? Of course not. Total waste of money. All they could do is ban him from entering the UK but I doubt he wants to come

HousePlantQueen

Babs03

Is about time we all questionned how certain unelected people/interested parties manipulate our democracies. We know about Murdoch and other media moguls, also large corp, and now Musk. It seems that our votes come to nothing because we are governed by shadowy unelected individuals who dictate policy.
Has been like this for a long time but now Musk has served to illuminate it.
Has been a very long time since any government worked for the masses

I agree. We should also question why people choose to believe anything which supports their ill founded beliefs, why a minority government is OK if it is a Tory one, but not if it is Labour one. Why an unelected foreigner is suddenly entitled to interfere in democracy, but the EU commission is not.

I know I asked that earlier, but unsurprisingly, answer came there none.

Why is Musk a person to listen to, but Barnier is not?

^Why an unelected foreigner is suddenly entitled to interfere in democracy, but the EU commission is not.

Why is Musk a person to listen to, but Barnier is not?^

It's utterly absurd isn't it?

One of the reasons given for leaving the EU was sovereignty - not being 'told what to do' by Brussels.

Yet here we are with some championing the world's richest man who not only wants to decide which party governs our country, but seems to think he must have the right to decide who might lead whichever party he chooses to do it!

He has decided Farage is not the man, and that an ex football hooligan should be released pronto from prison in order to - as he (Musk) has predicted - one day become the UK's Prime Minister!

... am I living in a parallel universe? Did we 'take back' our sovereignty to hand it over to a very rich foreigner who clearly doesn't even understand how a constitutional Monarchy works?

The exploitation, abuse and rape of young girls is global - it's even worse in some other countries than it is here... where's the outrate and concern from Musk?

This is the man whose public response to criticism from a high profile woman in the entertainment industry, was to "offer" to give her a child.

... that's an age-old misogynist's way of putting a woman in her place - reminder her that he can, or threatening that he might - impregnate her, that he has sexual power over her.

He cares deeply about women and girls. Sure...

Maremia

Whitewavemark2, excellent post, and now the Security Services are checking his output to see if it breaches our laws.

Good.

(I have read Cossy's link, don't get your point)

HousePlantQueen

What truth are you pointing out about the ethnicity of these rapists?

Ps/
You might want to read Cossy’s link first.

Whitewavemark2, excellent post, and now the Security Services are checking his output to see if it breaches our laws.

news.sky.com/story/amp/grooming-gangs-scandal-timeline-what-happened-what-inquiries-there-were-and-how-starmer-was-involved-after-elon-musks-accusations-13285021

Babs03

Who is defending rapists?

According to some, those on here who are pointing out the truth about the ethnicity of rapists are apologists. "Some people are still more concerned about hurting the feelings of rapists"

None, not one of us, is defending the “Pakistani Rape Gangs”, we are stating that actions, not inquiries, should be implemented, victims supported and perpetrators punished irrespective of their race/colour/nationality

Babs03

Is about time we all questionned how certain unelected people/interested parties manipulate our democracies. We know about Murdoch and other media moguls, also large corp, and now Musk. It seems that our votes come to nothing because we are governed by shadowy unelected individuals who dictate policy.
Has been like this for a long time but now Musk has served to illuminate it.
Has been a very long time since any government worked for the masses

I agree. We should also question why people choose to believe anything which supports their ill founded beliefs, why a minority government is OK if it is a Tory one, but not if it is Labour one. Why an unelected foreigner is suddenly entitled to interfere in democracy, but the EU commission is not.

I know I asked that earlier, but unsurprisingly, answer came there none.

Why is Musk a person to listen to, but Barnier is not?

BlueBelle

He’s a meddler, listening to his father speak on TV yesterday I can see where it comes from, a vile, far right man, highly opinionated and extremely racist.

This country needs to deal with ALL perpetrators white, brown or black I worked for 10 years with abuse survivors and none were abused by Muslims or any race other than white Caucasians, of course a lot depends on the demographics of the area.
I dealt with people abused by fathers, stepfathers, uncles, teachers (this was a ring) youth leaders, church officials and church goers never once a person other than white
A lot of very well thought of people many whose criminal behaviour CPS chose to ignore
I remember going to high court with one mum who started proceedings when her child became the age she was when she was regularly abused It was a jury we were hopeful they would see her ruined life, but they found a non guilty verdict because the woman could not remember the dates the abuse happened (30 years previous ) she knew it happened every time herMum went to her night job but not exact dates

ALL prosecutions are very overdue no matter whatever race religion or persuasion the abuser comes from

Very well said, I agree with every word!

Who is defending rapists?

Kandinsky

I know plenty of white men are child rapists, but in Rochdale the gangs were predominantly Pakistani men, deliberately targeting vulnerable white children. This is a fact.
I wonder if those defending these men would be so obliging if it had been predominantly white men targeting Pakistani children - I doubt it.
Some people are still more concerned about hurting the feelings of rapists.
It’s disgusting. .

How dare you suggest that some of us are defending these rapists!

imaround

Elon donated 6 billion in stocks to his own foundation. Then he got in trouble 3 years in a row for not giving away the minimum amount required for charity. The minimum amount? 5%

He gave 6 billion to himself tax free.

www.nytimes.com/2024/12/12/us/politics/musk-foundation-taxes-donations.html

He and Trump have another thing in common then; Trump, Don Jr, Eric and Ivanka are all barred from running a charity due to financial irregularities.

Is about time we all questionned how certain unelected people/interested parties manipulate our democracies. We know about Murdoch and other media moguls, also large corp, and now Musk. It seems that our votes come to nothing because we are governed by shadowy unelected individuals who dictate policy.
Has been like this for a long time but now Musk has served to illuminate it.
Has been a very long time since any government worked for the masses

FullFact.
fullfact.org/crime/grooming-gang-victims-musk-pearson-champion/

Kandinsky

FriedGreenTomatoes2
Totally agree.

I hope he keeps the pressure up!

yes, me too. Thank you Elon Musk

Re the O/P ie Musk generally - the a copy courtesy Maizie and the FT this morning:

It appears that the Financial Times thinks that Musk is plotting to have Starmer removed from office. the story is behind a paywall I'm afraid:

www.ft.com/content/dd4b066c-30a1-4ce4-a95e-82c334a740cf

This is a snippet from it:

Elon Musk has privately discussed with allies how Sir Keir Starmer could be removed as UK prime minister before the next general election, according to people briefed on the matter

Musk, the world's richest man and key confidant of US president-elect Donald Trump, is probing how he and his rightwing allies can destabilise the UK Labour government beyond the aggressive posts he has issued on his social media platform X, the people said

ronib

There’s just one little omission from the list - and that is ….. the Labour government has only a small percentage of eligible votes. A fluke result. So Musk is talking to the masses who did not vote in Uk elections. The dispossessed?

The Labour government does have a notable percentage of seats and that's our democracy. It’s worth considering that the outcome of the elections can reflect a range of factors or perhaps I should say it's worth doing so, if you still believe in democracy.

As I have said elsewhere, many adults have biases that lead them to trust certain sources or narratives without questioning them. I think Musk’s engagement resonates with various groups, not just those who feel dispossessed

Mr Musk giving away money to charity does not cause me to change my views on him. I understand that the late Mr Savile was a supporter of many charities: this did not make him any less of a vile human.
I notice that Musk doesn't notice any problems in the United States worthy of his attention, and his avowed interest in free speech seems not to lead him to comment on such matters in China, for example- funny that.