78yr old woman is in prison through no fault of hers

Erm … the polite answer is ‘nowt’.

MissAdventure

So, what has the small wristed woman encouraged her supporters to change?
What have we done as a direct result of her actions?

She has not influenced me in the slightest.

I have, however, made adjustments over the last few years.

I think she's trying to influence the oil companies. Like howling at the moon.

Because she's really shown those oil companies!
They realise she means what she says, has the courage of her convictions, and... ooooh... wait a minute... has small wrists.

Each of us may feel that some aspects of the law are wrong. You may feel that the law regarding possession of cocaine, or tax evasion, or the taking of rare bird's eggs is wrong. Your stance on such matters does not give you a get- out- of - jail - free card( in this case literally), however deeply held your convictions, and however many others share them.
I understand this woman's perspective but she broke the law, and is subject to the consequences, as I would be, in the same situation,as another 70+ retired teacher.

Caleo I use gas to heat my smallish living quarters because I'd die without heating.

There are many forms of electric heating, both fixed appliances and portable ones, you don't have to use gas or oil. My parents lived in an all electric house in the West country, amazingly they didn't die. (Well they both did but not from lack of heating)

Here are some suggestions, Caleo
www.goodenergy.co.uk/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=EN-SEARCH-BRAND-BROAD&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAs5i8BhDmARIsAGE4xHzo-fiNSWCSLQ7W3e4MXyjGMFEAQrpH_dpViHuIma-jCUydUu71BXkaAtq1EALw_wcB

If you live in Wales, I believe help is available for older people, such as financial help for installing heat source pumps etc

Rosie51

Caleo I use gas to heat my smallish living quarters because I'd die without heating.

There are many forms of electric heating, both fixed appliances and portable ones, you don't have to use gas or oil. My parents lived in an all electric house in the West country, amazingly they didn't die. (Well they both did but not from lack of heating)

Can I suggest Caleo that you get together with neighbours and all spend a day in each other’s houses, thus using only one heater for all of you.

You know, a bit like a car share.

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Little sympathy. I think she was foolhardy joining in this protest, knowing the consequences, if she wasn’t happy to serve the penalty. It wasn’t as though ther was a chance of not getting caught.

Rosie 51 what do you think they make electricity with? Not all of it is wind power. Who knows what the imported electricity is made from?

netflixfan

Rosie 51 what do you think they make electricity with? Not all of it is wind power. Who knows what the imported electricity is made from?

Nuclear power.
Wind power
Solar power
Anaerobic digestion

Some comes from fossil fuels but some companies are totally eco-friendly such as Ecotricity, Bulb and Octopus.

netflixfan

Rosie 51 what do you think they make electricity with? Not all of it is wind power. Who knows what the imported electricity is made from?

Oh I don't know, any of the methods listed by Allira not forgetting hydro power. I wonder how they make the electricity to charge the batteries of those oh so clean, soon to be compulsory, electric cars.........

not forgetting hydro power oh yes, of course.

And don't get DH started on wave power! We are surrounded by sea.

Rosie51 Electricity costs 4 times as much per unit as gas. This is why people do not use electricity to heat their homes.

We had to use electricity to heat our kitchen and family room for a whole winter while building work was taking place. The rest of the house was still able to be heated with the gas central heating. It increased our fuel bills by £several hubdred. We were very relieved when it could be reconnected to the main heating system.

If you want to know where our power is made and what from I reccommend Gridwatch gridwatch.co.uk/.

Currently wind power is providing only 17% of our electricity, as in most places, in cold snaps like this, there is very ittle wind. 57% is being produced by gas. Any electricity inported from France will almost undoubtedly be nuclear.

Allira Tide power comes in two different forms, The first is from the movement of the sea and research has been going into this for 30-40 years. The big problems are that the sea can be anything from glassy smooth with a slight swell to 5-10 metre high waves (and more) with huge swells and designing equipment capable of dealing with such a huge range of conditions and, importantly the cable connection to shore is very, very difficult. Also sea water is highly corrosive and making all the equipment sufficiently corrosion resistant is proving a challenge.

The other way the sea can be used is by working with the tide. For a tidal power station you need an area with a high rise and fall of he tide, ideally a minimum of 5 metres, France has a tidal power station in Brittany, near St Malo. I have visited it.
General de Gaulle opened it in 1964, and it is still operational. The turbines have been replaced several times.

There were plans some years to build such a tidal barrage and power station in the Severn estuary, but it was voted out. There was another plan to build a whole series of barrages down the South Wales coast - the Bristol channel is the only place in England with big enough tides - Unfortunately the then government refused to finance it. Together the barrages could have supplied 30% of our electricity.

Hydro power is a bit of a non-starter in the UK . For large hydro power stations you need high mountains and big rivers - and we have neither.

There are a couple of stations in Wales, but their output is small. The biggest, and best known, Dinorwic actually uses low power demand periods to pump water up to its reservoir above the power station, and in times of high demand relaeses the water to generate power. so is not a true hydro power resource.

Hydro power is a bit of a non-starter in the UK
There are several hydro power stations in the UK, producing a small percentage of the UK's electricity but helping at peak times particularly in winter.

I do know about the Severn barrage too, and the millions spent on feasibility studies and the reasons why this might not be a practical solution.

M0nica Rosie51 Electricity costs 4 times as much per unit as gas. This is why people do not use electricity to heat their homes.
Oh how strange I was sure my parents in their all electric ie only electric house used electricity to heat it. I must have been imagining it. Caleo criticises others for choices they make about car shares etc but then claims having to use gas for heating. I say she's making a choice for her own benefit, which makes her no different to anybody else.

Caleo is making the choice out of economic necessity, like the rest of us I would imagine.

Indeed - like the rest of us

We are all-electric. No gas here so the only other option is oil. That’s unlikely to change for a very long time.

Gas central heating won't work in an electricity power cut.

Nor oil I suppose as the boiler wouldn’t work?

Rosie51

M0nica Rosie51 Electricity costs 4 times as much per unit as gas. This is why people do not use electricity to heat their homes.
Oh how strange I was sure my parents in their all electric ie only electric house used electricity to heat it. I must have been imagining it. Caleo criticises others for choices they make about car shares etc but then claims having to use gas for heating. I say she's making a choice for her own benefit, which makes her no different to anybody else.

Oh stop being picky. The majority of households in this country are not heated by electricity.

We have heard a lot recently of the effect of the loss of the WFA has had on many pensioners. Overall 13% of households live in official fuel poverty, a transfer from gas to electricity to heat their hoemes would see their fuel bills quadruple. Plus of course the cost of the replacing their heating equipment.

Since one third of our power generation comes from gas generated power and that produces electricity at 60% efficiency. I am not sure, as things are whether it would actually reduce the nations gas consumption.

Allira

^not forgetting hydro power^ oh yes, of course.

And don't get DH started on wave power! We are surrounded by sea.

Wood fireplaces with chimneys.

eazybee

Caleo is making the choice out of economic necessity, like the rest of us I would imagine.

Agreed.

We all make heating choices based on our finances.

Norah

eazybee

Caleo is making the choice out of economic necessity, like the rest of us I would imagine.

Agreed.

We all make heating choices based on our finances.

Indeed, don't we all make many choices based on individual finances? One poster lecturing other posters on their choices, then declaring they themselves have no choice, when in fact there's always a choice, is disingenuous at best.