Carry Johnson in hospital

I hope she’s getting better treatment than my dad received. My dad was sent home from hospital with a chest infection, turned out, when I read his hospital notes he was being treated for pneumonia.
Myself & the DNs had been asking all week for a gp visit as I felt he wasn’t getting any better & was struggling for breath! He died a few nights later 😔 I feel he may had stood a chance if he had received another course of antibiotics.

It didn't occur to me to have the 'flu jab until I was about 60. Then I missed several years until one year before Covid when there was a particularly bad strain around.

Allira

If a private hospital is going to perform operations they will need an ICU facility in case of post-operative problems but I know the one near here will send patients to an NHS hospital if necessary.

Any patient admitted as an emergency eg with pneumonia, would be taken to an NHS hospital.

I know that to be the case too Allira. The vast majority of private hospitals are not geared up for medical, as opposed to surgical, patients, they don’t have the facilities or the staff cover to deal with them, and i know from experience that complex medical cases are always transferred to the NHS. Some NHS hospitals also have private beds, but use the services of the NHS and cross charge.

Poor Carrie. A week in hospital is a long time even if the doctors were adopting
‘an abundance of caution’

I wouldn’t criticise her for not having had the flu vaccine. It wouldn’t have occurred to me at her age, and in fact I’ve only had it for about the past eight years, since it dawned on me that I am probably now classed as elderly!

There are over 6000 NHS ICU beds Louella12, compared with perhaps 100 private beds in the facilities you mention. I highly doubt if the private ICU beds in most of the private hospitals offer the full range of ICU either, they are most likely for complex post surgical cases.
Regardless, Carrie Johnson was in an NHS hospital.

Just checked. Our nearest Spire Hospital has just three intensive care beds.

If a private hospital is going to perform operations they will need an ICU facility in case of post-operative problems but I know the one near here will send patients to an NHS hospital if necessary.

Any patient admitted as an emergency eg with pneumonia, would be taken to an NHS hospital.

The Spire Hospital Liverpool is a surgical and diagnostic unit, it doesn’t have the facilities and back up to admit medical patients. If somebody developed pneumonia whilst an inpatient they would treat it up to a certain point, but transfer to an NHS hospital if too sick for them to manage. The same applies if patients need intensive care post surgery. Here’s the CQC Report which details the facilities and specialties. There are one or two private hospitals in the UK that do provide a wider, but not complete, set of services, but they are very few and far between.

She was in the John Radcliffe hospital

Some private hospitals also have ICU. I think there's been some big changes over the years

Cleveland Clinic London: Offers 24/7 care in a private ICU with 29 rooms, the latest technology, and a team of critical care-trained specialists
The Clementine Churchill Hospital: A Level 3 ICU in Harrow that offers advanced critical care
The BUPA Cromwell Hospital: Has an ICU, as well as a children's center, cancer center, and other specialized centers
HCA Healthcare UK: Has level 2 and level 3 ICUs in all its main hospitals
The London Clinic: Has an ICU that some say is well-designed and has a welcoming environment
St Anthony's Private Hospital: Offers critical care services

I know they do, due to the fact my brother in law was treated in the private Spire hospital in Liverpool!

Not sure if Carrie was admitted as an emergency. Pneumonia doesn't usually present that way. I was ill for a week or so before eventually being admitted and diagnosed.

And talking of private hospitals, I read about a private hospital performing heart transplants. I found it hard to believe but after searching I discovered it was true. I'm not sure how they do this. I need to look into it more. Maybe tomorrow!

Not as an emergency they won’t Louella12. They don’t have 24 hour emergency admissions or intensive care cover. Some hospitals have mixed NHS and private patients, and they might, but not purely private hospitals.

Many private hospitals will treat pneumonia, Casdon

DDs and SinLs have always paid privately for the jab, as they aren’t eligible for the free NHS ones. Better safe than sorry, even if this years isn’t as effective as previous years.

Flu vaccines are by necessity from the most recent strains - last year’s, to have time to make millions of doses. Therefore, if the virus has mutated, even slightly, the vaccine may not be as effective.
Sounds like this is the case.

Usedtobeblonde

Carrie is reported as saying the NHS staff are wonderful.
I wonder if that means she was treated by the NHS and not privately.
In any case I wish her well and a speedy recovery.

Private hospitals don’t deal with medical emergencies of that kind, you would always be admitted under the NHS.

Carrie is reported as saying the NHS staff are wonderful.
I wonder if that means she was treated by the NHS and not privately.
In any case I wish her well and a speedy recovery.

Primrose53

Jaxjacky

She’s said she regrets not having the jab.

Doesn’t seem to have made much difference whether you had it or not. I read that this year’s jab was not very effective.

Yes, I heard that too.

Jaxjacky

She’s said she regrets not having the jab.

Doesn’t seem to have made much difference whether you had it or not. I read that this year’s jab was not very effective.

We get all sorts off our GCs, they are nursery age and rarely come home without a snotty nose and cough.
Haven't had the flu yet, got it last year, first time in years, and would not want that again.

I hope Carrie is recovering well; it seems as if it was nasty and sounds quite frightening, especially in a younger person.

Wilfred has probably started school now and children bring all kinds of bugs and viruses home with them.

As well as that, there seem to be a lot of nasty viruses around this winter as well as 'flu.

I ended up in hospital for a week with pneumonia. I was 27. Awful experience!

Yes of course GG. I dare say they can afford it.

I was wondering who this was.
I guessed it was someone from tv. Which I don't watch.
Think I've worked it out now.