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Why do you support Labour?

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Beeches Wed 15-Jan-25 18:23:53

Can we have some in-depth discussion about what Labour fans like about Labour running the country please? I’m struggling to pinpoint what exactly the pro Labour people want from them, or what they think they’ll benefit from, or is it a general desire for fairness and equality (Long standing Labour ethical principle) and a sense that Labour would make them feel more secure in an increasingly complicated and confusing world? So what is it?!

Blinko Wed 15-Jan-25 18:33:04

I like the Scandi model of excellent infrastructure paid for by higher taxes from those who can afford them. The US model of low taxation and devil take the hindmost in terms of services for all including the poor and disadvantaged does not appeal. I believe that a left leaning Government would meet this aspiration better than a right wing one. Not that I think everything in the garden is rosy right now. But I’m hoping things will improve over the next five years.

Louella12 Wed 15-Jan-25 18:36:10

That's a skewed question. Pointing out the positives but pointing out the negatives in your Reform post!

Good luck anyway, I shall leave you to it

Cossy Wed 15-Jan-25 18:45:49

I voted Labour in this GE, because I truly believe that the LP would like to give all of our communities an equal chance to access appropriate healthcare, decent accommodation and a good all round education.

Would I vote for Labour again, yes, am I a little disappointed with some of the things they’ve done, yes, am I worried about about the economy, yes, but not as much as I was under the previous govt.

I still think Starmer is to be trusted.

I’m also giving them a much longer timescale to make change and a difference.

I’m centre, left, not far left.

Beeches Wed 15-Jan-25 18:47:47

Louella but I can only put in the key voter ideology factors that identify different parties!

LizzieDrip Wed 15-Jan-25 19:02:18

I support Labour because:

They have a commitment to social justice - a belief that all citizens should be able to reach their potential, no matter what their background.

They have a commitment to public services for the benefit of all in society e.g. the NHS free at the point of need; a good education system for all; a properly functioning justice system.

They have a commitment to address the climate emergency the world is facing.

They have shown some commitment to re-distribution of wealth e.g. means testing the WFA; removing the tax break for private schools; revising the unequal inheritance tax enjoyed be farmers. (I would like them to go even further in the area of wealth distribution). Those with the broadest shoulders should contribute more to society.

They have a commitment to addressing the UK’s housing crisis e.g. revising planning systems; affordable house building.

They have a commitment to break the cycle of gangs exploiting immigrants. They are processing asylum claims in a timely fashion.

They have a commitment to the UK remaining a member of the ECHR.

They want closer trading links with our nearest trading partner - Europe.

The PM and current cabinet are the most working class the UK has ever had. They understand the lived experience of working class people.

The PM particularly has a deep commitment to human rights.

I think that’ll do for now Beechessmile

Chocolatelovinggran Wed 15-Jan-25 19:03:36

I support the Labour Party because I feel that they represent the kind of community to which I aspire, in which those that can, work and pay tax, to fund those who cannot, for whatever reason.
I look for those taxes to be used for health, education, law enforcement for the good of all.
So far, I'm somewhat disappointed, but I'm hopeful for the future.

valdali Wed 15-Jan-25 19:11:37

Yes, all the above.
Also I like that Starmer isn't playing party politics (he does refer to the "black hole" but only to explain why there has been a rethink on some fiscal policies since their manifesto)
He isn't forever trying to put the best spin on anything or shying away from decisions the country needs because they'll cost him voter popularity.
Democracies can only be effective if the government put the country's longterm interests above their party popularity, which the Tories absolutely weren't doing in government & still aren't in opposition.

keepingquiet Wed 15-Jan-25 19:22:22

LizzieDrip

I support Labour because:

They have a commitment to social justice - a belief that all citizens should be able to reach their potential, no matter what their background.

They have a commitment to public services for the benefit of all in society e.g. the NHS free at the point of need; a good education system for all; a properly functioning justice system.

They have a commitment to address the climate emergency the world is facing.

They have shown some commitment to re-distribution of wealth e.g. means testing the WFA; removing the tax break for private schools; revising the unequal inheritance tax enjoyed be farmers. (I would like them to go even further in the area of wealth distribution). Those with the broadest shoulders should contribute more to society.

They have a commitment to addressing the UK’s housing crisis e.g. revising planning systems; affordable house building.

They have a commitment to break the cycle of gangs exploiting immigrants. They are processing asylum claims in a timely fashion.

They have a commitment to the UK remaining a member of the ECHR.

They want closer trading links with our nearest trading partner - Europe.

The PM and current cabinet are the most working class the UK has ever had. They understand the lived experience of working class people.

The PM particularly has a deep commitment to human rights.

I think that’ll do for now Beechessmile

Pretty much same for me.

Also I have a good female Labour MP who does her job quietly and seriously without seeking the limelight.

I have an excellent Labour council who have made clearly visible positive changes in the community I live in.

We have a Labour Mayor who is making positive changes in public transport.

Is that enough?

Beeches Wed 15-Jan-25 19:34:47

Thanks for all the detailed replies, and so I voted Labour because despite every party having weaknesses and imperfections, they stand for compassion and inclusivity and fairness which tends to translate into equitable policies that benefit both a majority of individuals as well as the greater good of the country. They understood they needed to become much more centrist to achieve a large majority to actually win power, which they achieved. They understood the trade off between insuring broad industry backing and broad media backing - in other words they were realists who knew idealism and perfectionism is not enough to get to power. They took everyone with them. They don’t want us to lose the most valuable asset to the people, the NHS, but they will work with private to help prop it up. I feel I can trust them to protect my family, especially my children, from the chaos of late stage capitalism

Cossy Wed 15-Jan-25 19:43:01

👏👏👏👏 I agree, and believe in, all of your statements flowers

LizzieDrip Wed 15-Jan-25 20:01:25

I think the single word that sums it up for me (which some of you have cited) is trust.

I trust Keir Starmer, the PM and the man.

I trust the Labour Party, as a whole, to do their best for our country - not perfect but trustworthy!

Blinko Wed 15-Jan-25 20:29:48

I agree with all these - so well expressed.

Indigo8 Wed 15-Jan-25 20:43:27

I am in the position of being left wing but not supporting Labour.

I fell out of love with the Labour party when Tony Blair introduced New Labour and proceeded to further weaken the NHS by extending outsourcing and taking us into the Gulf War following the WMD farce.

However, I think Keir Starmer deserves a chance to prove that he is not from the same mould.

Oreo Wed 15-Jan-25 20:46:22

Cossy

I voted Labour in this GE, because I truly believe that the LP would like to give all of our communities an equal chance to access appropriate healthcare, decent accommodation and a good all round education.

Would I vote for Labour again, yes, am I a little disappointed with some of the things they’ve done, yes, am I worried about about the economy, yes, but not as much as I was under the previous govt.

I still think Starmer is to be trusted.

I’m also giving them a much longer timescale to make change and a difference.

I’m centre, left, not far left.

Similar to above but not certain that Starmer is to be trusted.
Also aspirations and commitment are to be applauded but only if they translate to actions, not talk or inquiries or quangos or committees instead.
Am also looking for competence now they’re in power and not very happy about what they’ve done so far!I will give them time to settle down and see how I feel in another year.

flappergirl Wed 15-Jan-25 21:15:03

Because the Tories have always resisted and actively voted against any work place or social reform, including the NHS. If it was left to them, children would still be working and losing limbs in mills, mines and factories. There'd be no welfare safety net either including state pensions. As Aneurin Bevan once said "they are lower than vermin". I could go on, but basically that, my dear, is why the Labour Party was formed and why I will always vote for them.

LizzieDrip Wed 15-Jan-25 22:01:59

Indigo I agree with you regarding Tony Blair - I was never a ‘fan’ of New Labour, although they did implement some good initiatives e.g. SureStart.

At heart, I am rather more left than the current Labour government, and would like them to be more bold, brave and radical - perhaps they will in time.

Nevertheless, I support them wholeheartedly because I believe they are genuinely more socialist than New Labour was.

Also, I would hate to see the Labour Party tear itself apart (Left v Centre) when we all essentially have socialist values at heart.

Wyllow3 Wed 15-Jan-25 23:01:48

Glad to read above what I didn't have the energy to get down tonight. Core values. Uphill at the moment and a rocky road. Lots of good things said I agree with cossy on my attitude to the difficulties.

Ladyleftfieldlover Wed 15-Jan-25 23:05:26

LizzieDrip

I support Labour because:

They have a commitment to social justice - a belief that all citizens should be able to reach their potential, no matter what their background.

They have a commitment to public services for the benefit of all in society e.g. the NHS free at the point of need; a good education system for all; a properly functioning justice system.

They have a commitment to address the climate emergency the world is facing.

They have shown some commitment to re-distribution of wealth e.g. means testing the WFA; removing the tax break for private schools; revising the unequal inheritance tax enjoyed be farmers. (I would like them to go even further in the area of wealth distribution). Those with the broadest shoulders should contribute more to society.

They have a commitment to addressing the UK’s housing crisis e.g. revising planning systems; affordable house building.

They have a commitment to break the cycle of gangs exploiting immigrants. They are processing asylum claims in a timely fashion.

They have a commitment to the UK remaining a member of the ECHR.

They want closer trading links with our nearest trading partner - Europe.

The PM and current cabinet are the most working class the UK has ever had. They understand the lived experience of working class people.

The PM particularly has a deep commitment to human rights.

I think that’ll do for now Beechessmile

Well said.

Beeches Wed 15-Jan-25 23:08:53

Thanks Ladyleftfield, I agree all those points, and would like there to a global push to effectively tax those with +£10 million wealth which seems to be the biggest cause of inequality and I can’t imagine why Reform aren’t interested in taxing the uber rich (except I can absolutely guess)

whywhywhy Wed 15-Jan-25 23:18:57

I voted labour and I believe they will get this country back on its feet but it will hurt and it will take time. Conservatives ran this country into the gutter and they pick up a poison chalice which conservatives left behind. People are putting labour down too quickly! Give them a chance!

Grantanow Thu 16-Jan-25 00:04:17

I agree with all the reasons given above to support Labour but they are not showing as much competence as I had hoped for.

Shinamae Thu 16-Jan-25 00:08:45

Beeches

Thanks Ladyleftfield, I agree all those points, and would like there to a global push to effectively tax those with +£10 million wealth which seems to be the biggest cause of inequality and I can’t imagine why Reform aren’t interested in taxing the uber rich (except I can absolutely guess)

And still, you have to have a dig at Reform 😂😂

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