Badenoch admits that there was no plan.

Parsley3

I would say that Badenoch is too busy sparring with Farage to be effective as opposition leader. I can't believe that the once mighty Conservative Party has been reduced to fighting for its very existence and I couldn't name a Tory with the chops to turn its fortunes round. We live in interesting times.

It isn’t just Badenoch. The Conservative Party has been sparring with Farage for years. It’s why Cameron called the EU referendum. Johnson slipped into the leadership with all the mayhem that was created and did even more damage to the party. If it hurts me, a lifelong Labour voter, to see what has happened to the Tories I can’t imagine how they feel. I give Badenoch 12 months max. But have got no idea who can replace her.

eazybee

Still attacking Boris Johnson in an attempt to divert attention from the economic disaster unfolding now as a result of the incompetents that Labour supporters inflicted on the country.

The economic disaster started with Johnson so attacking him is an entirely reasonable stance. Labour are left to pick up his pieces.

Whichever way people voted on Brexit, they were entitled to assume that there were sound plans in place for either result. The Tories were playing political games with the country's future - they should be thoroughly ashamed.

Freya5

Whitewavemark2

We always knew that to be the case.

What is different is that the Tories are finally admitting the truth.

Oh for goodness sake. We all knew this. Anything at all to take the heat from the disaster that is this Labour Gov.

Nope - merely responding to Badenoch’s latest gem.

She is the gift that keeps on giving😄😄😄

Oops - life outside the EU (Freudian slip?)

Anything at all to take the heat from the disaster that is this Labour Gov.

But Freya, we haven’t brought it up ‘to take the heat off Labour’!!!

Badenoch has said the Tories had no plan for life outside the UK - this thread is responding to her comment.

This is the second time I’ve posted this here🤷‍♀️

Not at all. If someone criticises something the current government has done on a key issue, its reasonable to ask,

"well, what would you have done that was more effective"

Whitewavemark2

We always knew that to be the case.

What is different is that the Tories are finally admitting the truth.

Oh for goodness sake. We all knew this. Anything at all to take the heat from the disaster that is this Labour Gov.

I would say that Badenoch is too busy sparring with Farage to be effective as opposition leader. I can't believe that the once mighty Conservative Party has been reduced to fighting for its very existence and I couldn't name a Tory with the chops to turn its fortunes round. We live in interesting times.

Brexit was a disaster manufactured by the Tories at every stage. They should be ashamed.

Like previous poster, I knew this already. I had the most horrible sinking feeling when I saw the faces of Gove and Johnson after they won. We had politicians consumed with their own egos and arrogance and they led us into a massive mistake. The vote should never have taken place. This country ( UK) will never be the same.

GrannyGravy13

Parsley3

The media are quite quiet on how Badenoch is doing as Leader of the Opposition. How is she doing? I have no idea.

I assume that the Conservatives are regrouping after their trouncing at the GE.

The trouble is that the remaining Conservative MPs are a motley crew. I really don't see a natural leader amongst any of them. James Cleverly is IMO the best of the bunch (and I don't rate him very highly), but he's already been rejected. Badenoch is a loose cannon and I honestly can't see the Conservatives winning a GE with her as leader.

I have no idea at all of a coherent cabinet and strategy, just what jumps out at PMQ's and other brief forays like the attempt last week to sabotage the Child Protection Bill.

Parsley3

The media are quite quiet on how Badenoch is doing as Leader of the Opposition. How is she doing? I have no idea.

Terribly. An utter embarrassment.

That is why they are so quiet. But I guess there is behind the scenes panic trying to find someone of any real weight and authority.

Goodness knows who.

As maybe suggested - Johnson got rid of the real Tories.

Parsley3

The media are quite quiet on how Badenoch is doing as Leader of the Opposition. How is she doing? I have no idea.

I assume that the Conservatives are regrouping after their trouncing at the GE.

The media are quite quiet on how Badenoch is doing as Leader of the Opposition. How is she doing? I have no idea.

I looked at the newspaper front pages online this morning, thinking (naively) there might be some mention of Badenoch’s admission of Tory failure regarding Brexit.

I’m such an optimist!

There’s nothing - I couldn’t find a single word about it on any front page.

Just imagine if Keir Starmer had made a similar announcement about something that Labour had done, costing the country billions of £££s and dramatically shifting the position of the UK’s place in the world.

Bluddy Hell … the media wouldn’t stop berating him for years!

Badenoch admits the Tories messed Brexit up … media silence!

I agree with GrannyGravy13.
Cameron was so sure of a Remain vote which would be a vote of confidence in the Tory Government and pull the rug out from under Farage at the same time that he didn't consider anything else. Despite promising to stay whatever the outcome he threw his toys out of his pram the very next morning.
Badenoch needs to get with grips with the here and now and the future instead of harping on about the past.

No sign of it yet.

Gone are the days of the political giants, they just have pip-squeaks shouting nonsense from the sidelines.

Whitewavemark2

Yes you are spot on there.

The rot set in and the Tories have never recovered.

The rot set in and the Tories have never recovered.

They have to do that... recover.

We need a decent Opposition.

Yes you are spot on there.

The rot set in and the Tories have never recovered.

Casdon

People still talk about Churchill eazybee. I think we can safely say that Boris Johnson’s tenure and misdemeanours will go down in history, never mind still be talked about a couple of years after he left office, much like Tony Blair. It’s not diversion, it’s context.

Imo his legacy ( along with Brexit, that is) is that he destroyed the Conservative Party as we knew it when he threw out so many good, decent MP’s.

Alistair Campbell described Boris on that day as 'looking as though someone had run over his spaniel'.

He'll be able to have PM put on his gravestone though..

valdali

I assumed the Remain side would win. I think a lot of people did. Even the Brexit gang were suprised when they won.

I remember the day after the brexit side won Boris ran off wearing a full suit saying that he was playing cricket, he later admitted that he needed time to think. I wonder if he has had enough time yet?

I assumed the Remain side would win. I think a lot of people did. Even the Brexit gang were suprised when they won.

Allira

Casdon

I thought Labour were telling people what they didn’t want to hear though Allira!

I think Labour have announced measures but not thought through the consequences!

It was her analogy that made me smile, she can’t have thought about what she was saying.