Badenoch admits that there was no plan.

Old news Whitewavemark2 it is well known that David Cameron assumed that the remain side would win, and therefore had no contingency plans for a leave result.

Why do you think he resigned the next morning.

We always knew that to be the case.

What is different is that the Tories are finally admitting the truth.

Johnson, Farage, Gove, Cummings to name just 4, led this country blindfolded into the greatest economic disaster of the 21st (and 20th) Century.

I will NEVER forget the looks on the faces of Johnson and Gove the morning after the referendum result. As they got into a car they were surrounded by reporters asking “so, now you’ve won the referendum, what’s the plan”? I have never seen two more frightened individuals - rabbits in headlights doesn’t even come close.

Shame on them!

At least Badenoch has owned up to what many of us already knew - there was no plan! … although she was part of the government that kept dragging it through.

I will NEVER forgive the Tories and Farage for taking MY country out of the EU.

Yes, how refreshing for a Tory to admit to a mistake!

Cameron only called the referendum to appease UKIP (remember them) because they were leaking Tory MPs.

It was a very short term and seriously misjudged measure that the people of the UK will have to bear the consequences of for a very long time.

I think this is a shrewd move by Badenoch, as she seems to be walking a line between admitting Brexit was a mistake, whilst also lifting the responsibility from the shoulders of the electorate. I think this will also signal she is not frightened of taking on Reform, and good for her!

Not sure her move will pay off though...

The plan for Johnson was to win a bet with his old mate Cameron. Was just the winning that mattered after that there was no plan and that went for his whole time as PM.
He flew by the seat of his pants whilst delegating for others like Cummings to do the actual hard work.

It 's not quite what Badenoch said and she says that Labour are doing what the Tories did with many policies:
First announce what woul happen, then try to work out how to achieve that.

"These mistakes were made because we told people what they wanted to hear first and then tried to work it out later."

She attacked Labour for announcing policies without a plan to back them up.

I did mention on another thread thst we seem to have a lot of incompetents in local and central government.

She attacked Labour for announcing policies without a plan to back them up

Pot and kettle come to mind!

Still attacking Boris Johnson in an attempt to divert attention from the economic disaster unfolding now as a result of the incompetents that Labour supporters inflicted on the country.

People still talk about Churchill eazybee. I think we can safely say that Boris Johnson’s tenure and misdemeanours will go down in history, never mind still be talked about a couple of years after he left office, much like Tony Blair. It’s not diversion, it’s context.

LizzieDrip

^She attacked Labour for announcing policies without a plan to back them up^

Pot and kettle come to mind!

Yes, she said that as well, did you miss that?

she says that Labour are doing what the Tories did with many policies:
"These mistakes were made because we told people what they wanted to hear first and then tried to work it out later."

I thought Labour were telling people what they didn’t want to hear though Allira!

Casdon

I thought Labour were telling people what they didn’t want to hear though Allira!

I think Labour have announced measures but not thought through the consequences!

Eazybee it was Badenoch who attacked Johnson et al in her speech today. This thread is merely discussing what she said.

Allira

Casdon

I thought Labour were telling people what they didn’t want to hear though Allira!

I think Labour have announced measures but not thought through the consequences!

It was her analogy that made me smile, she can’t have thought about what she was saying.

I assumed the Remain side would win. I think a lot of people did. Even the Brexit gang were suprised when they won.

valdali

I assumed the Remain side would win. I think a lot of people did. Even the Brexit gang were suprised when they won.

I remember the day after the brexit side won Boris ran off wearing a full suit saying that he was playing cricket, he later admitted that he needed time to think. I wonder if he has had enough time yet?

Alistair Campbell described Boris on that day as 'looking as though someone had run over his spaniel'.

He'll be able to have PM put on his gravestone though..

Casdon

People still talk about Churchill eazybee. I think we can safely say that Boris Johnson’s tenure and misdemeanours will go down in history, never mind still be talked about a couple of years after he left office, much like Tony Blair. It’s not diversion, it’s context.

Imo his legacy ( along with Brexit, that is) is that he destroyed the Conservative Party as we knew it when he threw out so many good, decent MP’s.

Yes you are spot on there.

The rot set in and the Tories have never recovered.

Whitewavemark2

Yes you are spot on there.

The rot set in and the Tories have never recovered.

The rot set in and the Tories have never recovered.

They have to do that... recover.

We need a decent Opposition.

No sign of it yet.

Gone are the days of the political giants, they just have pip-squeaks shouting nonsense from the sidelines.

I agree with GrannyGravy13.
Cameron was so sure of a Remain vote which would be a vote of confidence in the Tory Government and pull the rug out from under Farage at the same time that he didn't consider anything else. Despite promising to stay whatever the outcome he threw his toys out of his pram the very next morning.
Badenoch needs to get with grips with the here and now and the future instead of harping on about the past.

I looked at the newspaper front pages online this morning, thinking (naively) there might be some mention of Badenoch’s admission of Tory failure regarding Brexit.

I’m such an optimist!

There’s nothing - I couldn’t find a single word about it on any front page.

Just imagine if Keir Starmer had made a similar announcement about something that Labour had done, costing the country billions of £££s and dramatically shifting the position of the UK’s place in the world.

Bluddy Hell … the media wouldn’t stop berating him for years!

Badenoch admits the Tories messed Brexit up … media silence!

The media are quite quiet on how Badenoch is doing as Leader of the Opposition. How is she doing? I have no idea.