Badenoch admits that there was no plan.

Louella12

It will end. Gen Z's and younger aren't remotely interested.

My mother was stunned as over time Germany became a friend. As a teen in London during the war she was amazed how time changes everything.

It will end. Gen Z's and younger aren't remotely interested.

Where's the source for that statement? I'm genuinely interested because I've heard it said quite a few times.

If there's a study that's been done - I'd like to see it. Not for you to prove anything, but out of interest.

???

Breturn yes!!! Bring it on👏👏👏

You are of course joking Louella12.
www.statista.com/statistics/1393682/brexit-opinion-poll-by-age/

It will end. Gen Z's and younger aren't remotely interested.

My mother was stunned as over time Germany became a friend. As a teen in London during the war she was amazed how time changes everything.

It’s never going to end. Those who voted to leave may or may not be happy with the out come. Those who voted remain are not happy with the outcome.
But who knows how many of the CBB group are among the complainers?

He is a real Anglophile and was devastated at the result.

mum2three

Still dredging this up...to what end? A large number of British people wanted to leave the EU, while most politicians didn't. Cameron underestimated the former and lost his gamble.

It’s never going to end mum2three. There’s a new term I heard yesterday coined by the Polish PM - Breturn.

Still dredging this up...to what end? A large number of British people wanted to leave the EU, while most politicians didn't. Cameron underestimated the former and lost his gamble.

My aunt kept her “parlour” although she never called it that right up to when she died, in the 80s. The generation before my aunt - so my grandfather etc, were still alive when I was a child, and their parlour was entirely Victorian, it’s fireplace with the two dogs and those Victorian vases glass epergnes on the dining table covered in that velvet type (?) cloth

It was only used at Christmas and occasional Sundays. It had a piano in it.

They were Methodists (Cornish) and when she died I found large books with Sunday readings - which I presume was read out aloud to the family, as well as well thumbed bibles snd hymn books.

The furniture was bought (at a guess when they got married) in 1939.

Allira

We didn't have a parlour.
We must have been low status.

We didn’t either, only my grandparents. I suppose we moved down the status ladder. 😥

We didn't have a parlour.
We must have been low status.

MaizieD, practically unused is right.
Apart from TWG meetings and listening to the piano being played, the only other time we children were allowed in was to dust!!

The parlour was the 'best' room. Kept for visitors and special occasions.

I think that social historians or sociologists would say it was something of a status symbol, too in Victorian/Edwardian times, as it meant that the family had enough 'means' to be able to have a room in their house that was practically unused.

Allira

The Parlour was for chatting, I think, for entertaining visitors.

Is it from the French parler?

You’re probably right.
My Grandmother had a dining room a kitchen, a living room and a parlour. We rarely went in there, but she used the parlour for meetings with the TWG ladies and there was certainly enough talking going on.

The Parlour was for chatting, I think, for entertaining visitors.

Is it from the French parler?

Mollygo

The sitting room-so named because all others were standing room only?

I always thought that it was called that because the Parlour was only used for 'best' and the rest of the time the family used another room to sit in... the sitting room...

nanna8

You mean the family room or the rumpus room ? Or maybe the lounge? Or the entertainment room ?

The sitting room was very sedate 😀

But now it's just the tv/craft/snooze/visitors' etc room.

You mean the family room or the rumpus room ? Or maybe the lounge? Or the entertainment room ?

Mollygo

The sitting room-so named because all others were standing room only?

😁
Presumably one dined in the dining room, cooked in the kitchen, slept in the bedroom and bathed in the bathroom.

The sitting room-so named because all others were standing room only?

Am I sitting in the front room or the lounge, or God forbid the drawing room?

The sitting room, dear, always the sitting room.

😁
May I recommend The Ladies' Book of Etiquette and Manual of Politeness.
I fear you are in need of such tutelage.

Allira

Oh, I forgot.

When she was a child she was 'middle class' but when she was 16 she became 'working class' by working part-time in McDonalds.
However, a year later she became middle class again because John Prescott was reported to say 'We're all middle class now', although John said that Tony Blair said it, not him. 🙂
I'm inclined to believe John.

Hope this all helps.

Phew 😄my head hurts.
Does that mean I’m middle class ? Does it mean I can’t drink a beer from the bottle or put a milk bottle on the table? Should I say serviette or napkin?Am I sitting in the front room or the lounge, or God forbid the drawing room?Please help me with such matters Allira before I do something wrong.🤔🤭

MayBee70

petra

MayBee70

Imo the referendum tapped into the racism and xenophobia that existed in this country. And, sadly, still does….

Would you say Swedes were racist. If you read this article it would appear Sweden have thought long and hard on how to resolve their problems with immigration.

www.government.se/government-policy/swedens-new-migration-policy/

There are people that are concerned about illegal immigration. I’m probably one of them to be perfectly honest. But there are also people that approach it purely from a position of racism and xenophobia; the sort of people that were in the BNP and its later incarnations. I do think there’s racism in Sweden but, being honest again, it’s only from watching Scandi noir programmes.

Of course there is racism and xenophobia in Sweden and in all other European countries too ( all in the world) and there is also growing dismay at the high levels of immigration which is a different thing altogether.

MayBee70

GrannyGravy13

MayBee70 are you really implying that those who voted to leave the EU are in the same league as facists, BNP and other far right extremists?

Unbelievable!

No. Just that people from those organisations would have voted leave and that it empowered them.

Yes. Nationalism and the far right are bedfellows