Trump Inauguration and Martin Luther King Memorial Day

The raiding of an elementary school by the I.C.E. today is beyond the pale. Fascism now lives in the U.S.A. !! Teachers and admin have to be versed in to protect children from guns and now the US government .

Interestingly enough, I agree that immigration needs to be dealt with. I hope the UK does something NOW, before someone gets elected that has nefarious intentions. Because the US is showing the world what happens if that comes to be.

My whole point in posting what I do is to show people around the world what the consequences are to waiting until public sentiment gets to bad. The UK appears to be right there.

These immigrants are still human beings. Children should not be rounded up at school, doctors offices and churches and separated from their families. US Citizens and Native Americans should not be detained in violation of their constitutional rights and the President of the United States should not be doing illegal and unconstitutional things.

What rights are you (a generalized you, not you personally), as a citizen of the UK, willing to give up in order to fix the migrant process? What human rights violations are you willing to look away from?

There has to be something in between right? Push your elected officials to figure that out now. Hold Labor's toes to the coals, no matter how you vote.

Today's Trump illegal act is impoundment. Been a law since 1974. www.gao.gov/products/095406

He has ordered Sec of State Rubio to halt all funding on existing foreign aid. This does appear to apply to funding for aid to Ukraine, Taiwan and Jordan. It does not appear to include funding for aid to Isreal and Egypt.

He is basically telling Congress he doesn't care what decisions they made, he is going to do whatever he wants in violation of the Constitution.

I think it is the general tone on all these threads rather than you iamround so am sorry if I targeted you. I am just agog at watching people say nazi, stupid, etc and thinking that this will be an effective strategy. The absolute shutting down of concerns around immigration when this is frequently a key factor in elections. I would say much more so in this country than in America from what I can see.

I agree the Democrats messed up, the point I’m making is that they lost by 4%, not a huge insurmountable mountain. With a different leader they may have won, or they may not. They don’t appear from here to be going into a decline in the way that the Tories are doing, they will no doubt regroup.

Trump reportedly had a call with the Greenland PM last week and it didn't go well. Trump was reportedly aggressive and threatened tariffs against the country.

Galaxy is correct in this instance. The democrats messed up. They are playing by the old "gentlemanly rules" of governing and the Republicans are not. And will continue to do so by the looks of what is happening this week. Lessons do need to be learned.

I still am not sure how me passing real time information of the effects of Trump's election is giving advice though. That part confused me.

A disaster for the American people yes, but I don’t think over egging the pudding as far as the Democrats losing is necessary, history repeats itself.

It is a disaster if you lose to someone like Trump, it is not like losing to Bush etc. They chose a sexual offender over the democrats - now some wont care about that, but some will and voted anyway.

Galaxy

You lost. Why would we follow your advice. It has been a disaster.

A margin of 4% between parties is not a disaster. It’s disappointing, given Trump, but not a disaster for the Democrats. If you look at the history of US politics, the pendulum swings constantly between the two parties, a presidential term ending often results in a swing to the other side. I expect the next senate elections will help redress the balance.

Galaxy

You lost. Why would we follow your advice. It has been a disaster.

I all this 'jumping on someone', particularly when her post said absolutely nothing to warrant it. Her only 'advice' was that we should try to nip trumplike tendencies in the UK in the bud.

Nothing at all to do with her 'losing' anything. No Democrats were mentioned in her post.

You are remarkably fond of accusing people of doing things that they haven't done.

Totally agree with your comments Galaxy

I am not jumping on anyone - I am expressing a view - the Democrats lost to Trump - how bad can they have been. They appear to have learnt nothing from that loss. Calling everyone Nazis, a focus on issues that were irrelevant to many, a failure to understand the new media, to name but a few, those are the things we need to learn. I suspect it is too late thought.

Galaxy

You seem to be telling the UK that we have to stop this now, well I hope we do it by looking at your example of failure in terms of campaigning and doing the opposite.

I still do not understand what you are saying or mean .

Galaxy

You lost. Why would we follow your advice. It has been a disaster.

Why are you jumping on imaround for something she hasn’t done?

All she’s doing is telling us what is happening now in the US, and some of its effects. Hoping that we in the UK can watch and learn.

Not that I think it’s likely that we will learn, the way our current government is going defeat in 2029 looks pretty certain.

Oh yes, lessons are to be learned definitely from this election cycle, and really the last 10 years.

You seem to be telling the UK that we have to stop this now, well I hope we do it by looking at your example of failure in terms of campaigning and doing the opposite.

What are you talking about Galaxy? What advice?

You lost. Why would we follow your advice. It has been a disaster.

imaround

Do I sound tired? Because I am. It is actually exhausting watching someone dismantle the country you love and k owing these is nothing you can do about it.

That is the reason I post here. Because this is headed your way. You in the UK have tome to stop this now. That and I hope one of you writes a book to tell about the downfall of the US after he gets us nuked, because I am prepared for anything at this point.

Thank you very much Imaround your thoughtful, informative posts are so welcome . I am an American living in the UK and am appalled at anyone here thinking this convicted felon who just pardoned the Jan 6 insurrectionists is worthy of any admiration . I guess Hitler had his fans in the UK as well . Luckily, I have my British Citizenship and can vote in the next election . We can’t Trumps poison to spread !

Do I sound tired? Because I am. It is actually exhausting watching someone dismantle the country you love and k owing these is nothing you can do about it.

That is the reason I post here. Because this is headed your way. You in the UK have tome to stop this now. That and I hope one of you writes a book to tell about the downfall of the US after he gets us nuked, because I am prepared for anything at this point.

CDC - Center for Disease Control (keeps us healthy, reports illnesses and pandemics) www.cdc.gov/

FDA - Food and Drug Administration (regulates prescription drugs, food, etc)
www.fda.gov/

NIH - National Institute of Health (oversees research for illnesses and vaccines)
www.nih.gov/

We could have a pandemic start yonorrow now and no one would know because these organizations can't communicate externally.

imaround

He has cancelled all NIH review panels for cancer research.

He had ordered all heath departments to cease all external communication and reporting, including rhe CDC, FDA, and NIH.

He has ordered all federally funded legal service providers to stop services at immigration courts.

I don't understand those health organisations and the consequences of what he's done?

Thank you again for valuable bits of information, imaround

Re - the 14th amendment - had to check to be sure

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States""

Glad Trumps attempt to EOrder part of the constitution has meant with resistance!

Big hole in his plans for deportation and the future.

He has cancelled all NIH review panels for cancer research.

He had ordered all heath departments to cease all external communication and reporting, including rhe CDC, FDA, and NIH.

He has ordered all federally funded legal service providers to stop services at immigration courts.

In Oklahoma, they want to outlaw all abortions and charge women who have them with murder, prohibits porn all together and takes away no fault divorce.

This same push is happening in other red states.

oksenate.gov/press-releases/deevers-introduces-slate-legislation-restore-moral-sanity-oklahoma?back=/senator-press-releases/dusty-deevers