Should Mariann Buddy have remained neutral?

And yet, we have GN posters on the Religion thread (albeit only a few) calling the Bishop “an idiot vicar who needs educating”; presuming she must be transgender, and referring to her words as “woke nonsense”.

Nowt as queer as folk!

I think, in the clip that I saw, she did very well.

As one same sex couple explained a few months ago, they fear that their child will be taken from them as they don’t conform to some people’s thinking.

She did well, he faked boredom she said what she needed to say in a clear non judgemental way and a non political way
He is a complete a…h…

Yes, it must have been particularly galling for a woman to have taken him to task.

She was a woman n a position of some power. She said what needed to be said and he couldn’t interrupt.
In essence everything he hates most! Yay!!!!
Good for her.

A Christan Bishop, preaching a Christan message of kindness in a Christian Church...what's wrong with that? Oh of course, it annoyed Trump. Maybe more so because it was a woman?

RosiesMaw2

Presumably because she is Bishop of Washington.

😂😂😂

Seems quite logical to me too 😀

loopyloo

But could that have happened in China or Russia?

Neither are what you might call The Land of the Free, are they?

Sago

Should Mariann Budde have remained neutral at the national prayer service or was she right to use the occasion to score political points?

She wasn't scoring political points.

She was speaking as a Christian with compassion.

She wrote a book How we Learn to be Brave

I think it might be worth reading.

Playground bullies response:

After he returned to the White House, Trump said, “I didn’t think it was a good service” and “they could do much better.” But later, in an overnight post on his social media site, he sharply criticized the “so-called Bishop” as a “Radical Left hard line Trump hater.”

“She brought her church into the World of politics in a very ungracious way. She was nasty in tone, and not compelling or smart,” said Trump, a Republican, adding that Budde didn’t mention that some migrants have come to the United States and killed people.

“Apart from her inappropriate statements, the service was a very boring and uninspiring one. She is not very good at her job!” Trump said. “She and her church owe the public an apology!”

(by the way, wiki tells us in a study in 2023

"Studies have shown that migrants are less likely to be criminals than the average person, and that native-born US citizens are incarcerated at higher rates for homicide than undocumented immigrants.)

loopyloo

But could that have happened in China or Russia?

I don't think that is relevant - the OP says she wants to know if she was right in this case.

Maizie I avoided watching, reading or taking any notice of the inauguration, knowing that we will hear all too much of Trump, once he was in power.

RosiesMaw2

She's not the first cleric to have called a political leader to task ("Will no-one rid me of this troublesome priest") ie criticized or corrected someone for their mistakes or failings, and hopefully she won't be the last.

I think she was right.
Speaking truth to power is a good thing.
And a Christian thing , as it happens.

to the playground bully

I wonder whether he was testing her? Expecting her to validate him.. it makes her doubly courageous if that was the case

Good point pascal30.

Trump is surrounded by boot-licking, sycophantic, yes men / women. He clearly does not expect anyone to question or challenge any of his ‘God given’ views - even when his views do not align with the word of God!

The way that those around him are sucking up the playground bully is truly sickening. Thank God for one brave woman!

M0nica

Who is she, what is she, why is what she did significant?

Oh dear …

Here's a report that goes into the controversial issues but its lengthy and hard to "Tease out" the influence of the total 25 religious seats out of Jan 25, 799 members.

lordslibrary.parliament.uk/lords-spiritual-in-the-house-of-lords-explained/#heading-6

M0nica

Who is she, what is she, why is what she did significant?

Oh, MOnica. Do you mean that?

She's the bishop of Washington and she gave the address at the church service to 'celebrate'(? or what? bless?) the new president. She asked for compassion for minorities, refugees, etc. Basically all the people Trump has said he's going after.

There's a link to it on the other thread on the Religion forum

Who is she, what is she, why is what she did significant?

25Avalon

She has been outspoken against Trump for some time so one wonders why she was chosen for this event?

I wonder whether he was testing her? Expecting her to validate him.. it makes her doubly courageous if that was the case..

I think it was on Truth Social. I've seen reference to it on BlueSky earlier today.

I just hope this brave woman doesn’t suffer any adverse consequences.

pascal30

silverlining48

I don’t think it shows how great America is. Trump certainly didn’t appear to find her words of any interest, so let’s see what happens next.

well he's certainly made his feelings clear in a late night rant last night..

Not best pleased!!

Was that on X (where he often writes late at night)?

Doodledog

I assumed that the OP was asking for a discussion of the role of the Church in politics.

It no longer has one officially, but the role of the Church is still to speak to believers about the issue of the day. Trump presents himself as a Christian (and yes, it is debatable whether that translates into deeds rather than words) so it was, IMO, appropriate for her to use a service to ask him to show compassion.

I thought about 'the role of the church in politics' and then I thought about all those bishops sitting in the House of Lords.

If they have to be there then I would have thought that they should be bringing a christian ethos to their political decisions.