Well done Harry

Anniebach

Harry has been criticised since his marriage, how has he been
vindicated? Cold has set the time span, no connection

He has perhaps been vindicated for the things that happened in his relationship with Chelsy Davy - as he blamed the press for the break up of that relationship and the timescale would be correct.

I don't know why he turned it into an individual crusade as he was originally a co-plaintiff with William and Kate - where it was proved
Harry was hacked 9 times
William was hacked 35 times
and Kate was hacked 155 times

However he dropped out as a plaintiff in that case and decided to launch his own case with his own lawyers after Elton John introduced Harry and Meghan to David Sherborne at Elton's holiday villa. Harry was scathing about Prince William choosing to settle his case (the secret deal he called it) but he sounds a bit hypocritical in retrospect.

I also think that Prince William should get much more credit as it was he that set the ball rolling on exposing the phone hacking scandal back 20 years ago which turned into a domino effect.
- William realised that his phone messages were being reported in the press after a discussion with Tom Bradby
- he went to the police who started a criminal investigation
- it was found that his aide's answerphone was hacked (remember the old school answerphones where you could listen to your messages from anywhere using a 4-digit code?)
- the police investigation mushroomed out into the widespread hacking of answerphones and the use of private detectives and other dubious sources against celebrities and victims of crimes.
- Eventually it led to criminal cases 100 were arrested and charged - Rebekka Brookes managed to evade conviction but others did not - several people went to prison
- most victims brought their claims between 2010 and 2014 - most settled or were awarded modest sums between £20,000-100,000. The man falsely accused of murder received £15,500
- Harry originally brought a claim with William and Kate. William settled in 2020 for the 190 times they had been hacked believed to be for £1,000,000 which it is said he donated to the Harry's Invictus Games

I think he has done well with this, balances out some of the bad things in the past. He is certainly no saint but this has shown he does have a certain determination to put things right.

Harry has been criticised since his marriage, how has he been
vindicated? Cold has set the time span, no connection

Ilovedogs22

Iam64

Harry gets so much criticism for everything and anything he does. The lack of empathy is stunning.
He’s been vindicated. Good

Here, here Iam64, Poor Harry & Megan are treated appallingly by the British press. It must be awful to have to live with such rotten annomosity & untruths directed at you and your little family.

But this ruling has nothing to do with Harry and Meghan as the apology is for press intrusion between 2005 and 2011 - so years before his life with Meghan.

I don't think NGN admitted to anything new did they? It seemed like they apologised for stuff they had already admitted to during the Leveson Inquiry in 2012.

I'm not sure how much Harry will actually get (I expect David - I charge £320,000 a week - Sherborne will get more) as the costs for this case were ridiculous. I believe Hugh Grant settled because it looked like it might cost the plaintiffs £10 million even if they won. British Courts rarely award costs that are considered excessive.

Ilovedogs22

Iam64

Harry gets so much criticism for everything and anything he does. The lack of empathy is stunning.
He’s been vindicated. Good

Here, here Iam64, Poor Harry & Megan are treated appallingly by the British press. It must be awful to have to live with such rotten annomosity & untruths directed at you and your little family.

Well of course Harry and Meghan know all about rotten animosity and untruths. They’ve directed plenty of their own towards the royal family.

Don't think I would thank the Sun for "doing the right thing now"! Rebekkah Brookes could have been found guilty & sentenced if the trial had gone ahead & other management implicated -not saying she would have been, but there was obviously enough chance of that outcome that the NGN group had to settle.

And the wording of the apology - if it had been any less "generous", I don't think even £10 million would've got Harry,
Tom & their legal team to settle!

It was hacking Millie Dowler's phone that absolutely sickened me - well done to Harry & Tom Watson.

Quote Syracute Wed 22-Jan-25 20:30:56
Anniebach
Quote Ilovedogs22 Wed 22-Jan-25 19:11:38
Anniebach
He has never sought privacy ,
Ohh Annie Bach, I would love to know where you get all your royal Intel from??? Are you a royal insider perhaps or perchance possibly working for MI5?
Actually, I think that the truth is that you believe all the tripe that you
lap-up in the nasty, cruel, bull-baiting tabloid trash???🤔

Critics of H&M couldn’t compete with such verbal abuse if they wanted to, I certainly do not or would not sink to those
Depths
Well, you certainly do on a regular basis . Your hounding of Meghan and Harry is tiresome . I am glad you have been called out for it .

I criticise yes, if you find my posts tiresome why read them ?

Has Prince Harry got what he wanted after tabloid apology?
The BBC understands the settlements to both Prince Harry and former Labour deputy leader Lord Tom Watson have cost NGN more than £10m in pay outs and legal fees.

BBC website article online

Peanuts? The amount of damages hasn’t been disclosed. Do you have inside information as regards the level of damages and the value of the ‘empire’?

Hmm. I read the Murdoch statement and I’m not sure it’s quite the fulsome wondrous apology that the “dragon slayer Harry” thinks it is.

Basically they paid him peanuts, in terms of value of their empire to go away and shut up.

Yes, it’s appalling for the press to have behaved like that and they absolutely deserved to be hauled over the coals for it. However. Unfortunately because Harry destroyed his own family’s privacy, deliberately exposing them to ridicule and humiliation in ‘Spare’ in the most spiteful and repulsive way possible for financial gain, I find it all rather self serving, tawdry and hollow.

Anniebach

Quote Ilovedogs22 Wed 22-Jan-25 19:11:38
Anniebach
He has never sought privacy ,
Ohh Annie Bach, I would love to know where you get all your royal Intel from??? Are you a royal insider perhaps or perchance possibly working for MI5?
Actually, I think that the truth is that you believe all the tripe that you
lap-up in the nasty, cruel, bull-baiting tabloid trash???🤔

Critics of H&M couldn’t compete with such verbal abuse if they wanted to, I certainly do not or would not sink to those
Depths

Well, you certainly do on a regular basis . Your hounding of Meghan and Harry is tiresome . I am glad you have been called out for it .

Well, at least the rest of us don't have to go through it all in the media now!
🌥

Thank you, Sun, at least you did the right thing this time, giving this cloud a silver lining

Wrong about what ?

Well said Luninance

I am afraid there will always be those who find admitting they were wrong rather difficult and will remain on the wagon dragging Harry through the mud. I always rather liked him and admired his mother too. Harry has a right to speak his own story, not have it spoken for him.

Quote Ilovedogs22 Wed 22-Jan-25 19:11:38
Anniebach
He has never sought privacy ,
Ohh Annie Bach, I would love to know where you get all your royal Intel from??? Are you a royal insider perhaps or perchance possibly working for MI5?
Actually, I think that the truth is that you believe all the tripe that you
lap-up in the nasty, cruel, bull-baiting tabloid trash???🤔

Critics of H&M couldn’t compete with such verbal abuse if they wanted to, I certainly do not or would not sink to those
Depths

This is what his uncle, Charles Spencer, had to say: "It takes an enormous amount of guts to take on opponents like News Group Newspapers, and great tenacity to win. And it’s just wonderful that Harry fought for - and gained - an apology to his mother. She would be incredibly touched at that, & rightly proud."

It is the many others who must feel so vindicated and grateful that Harry never gave up.

Anniebach

He grew up a member of the royal family, who in that family
spoke of his growing up ? wrote books gave tv interviews? His
mother exposed him and his brother to the cameras

Now his private life is spoken of frequently, by him

And how, pray tell, does any of that justify what the Sun did? This case was not about what Harry may or may not have done, but what was done to him (and many others).

Anniebach

He has never sought privacy ,

Ohh Annie Bach, I would love to know where you get all your royal Intel from??? Are you a royal insider perhaps or perchance possibly working for MI5?
Actually, I think that the truth is that you believe all the tripe that you
lap-up in the nasty, cruel, bull-baiting tabloid trash???🤔

He grew up a member of the royal family, who in that family
spoke of his growing up ? wrote books gave tv interviews? His
mother exposed him and his brother to the cameras

Now his private life is spoken of frequently, by him

Iam64

He lives a much more private family life than the one he grew up in. Your views on Harry and Meghan are well known Annie. The result of this dispute confirms that Harry was harassed, pursued, exploited and lied about. I’m relieved for him that the outcome is so clear

Indeed, I wonder if his critics would feel the same way if this had been plain old Joe Smith instead?

He lives a much more private family life than the one he grew up in. Your views on Harry and Meghan are well known Annie. The result of this dispute confirms that Harry was harassed, pursued, exploited and lied about. I’m relieved for him that the outcome is so clear

He has never sought privacy ,

These papers were one of the main reasons there was so much hate stirred up against him. He walked away from the royal family to get away from the relentless pursuit.