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Well done Harry

(229 Posts)
Whitewavemark2 Wed 22-Jan-25 10:57:58

My goodness the statement from the Murdoch is extraordinarily damning.

I wonder what it is that they are keen that we don’t hear at a trial.

Iam64 Wed 29-Jan-25 17:39:56

Well said Luckygirl

escaped Wed 29-Jan-25 15:44:10

I do not blame either of them for their choices - none of us will ever walk in their singular shoes and understand what their lives entail or how we might have reacted.
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Smileless2012 Wed 29-Jan-25 14:35:18

I agree that on occasion the medias behaviour has been and continues to be shameful. The shameful reporting of aspects of peoples lives that they would wish to remain private is the most shameful of all, particularly when that information comes from a member of their own family, is openly discussed during a televised interview, is made known in an autobiography and in some instances, isn't even true.

Luckygirl3 Wed 29-Jan-25 13:26:52

A royal upbringing in the UK is totally dysfunctional. We all know that. Add in the fact that these two young men lost their mother in an unimaginably appalling way that was all played out in the public eye. Their attempts to establish normal relationships and families whilst being hounded by the press was sad to watch.

William has dealt with it in one way, Harry in another. Each are individuals and the damage inflicted at different ages and will have their own responses, which I think should be respected.

I am not sure that either of the princes have had a good outcome. William is under the thumb of the royal heritage and his children are too - all that has gone before that has been so damaging is once again being played out; Harry has broken free and paid the price in other ways.

I do not blame either of them for their choices - none of us will ever walk in their singular shoes and understand what their lives entail or how we might have reacted.

I am however ready to pile approbation on the media whose behaviour has been shameful.

I think that the disgraceful hatred that they whip up - and is picked up and exaggerated by even those whose faith demands forgiveness and caring - is very sad.

eazybee Wed 29-Jan-25 10:21:37

If my family were attacking me I most definitely would not go public.
What is gained from washing dirty linen in public?

Diana, Harry and Meghan are all examples of how this practice rebounded on them.

Oreo Tue 28-Jan-25 22:48:19

Anniebach

So which is true, Megan was invited to spend Christmas with
the family before they were married, no other engaged partner has received this invite. Harry told the world how happy she was to be welcomed by a family and she had a happy time.
The same family who questioned the colour of the skin of his
unborn child,
Believe what you wish.

I think they deserve each other tbh, two egocentric people that I’d love never hearing about again.

Oreo Tue 28-Jan-25 22:46:20

Anniebach

Agree, but why is he so cruel ? he is happy so why his need to hurt others

I would honestly say that if you’re cruel and betray confidences and your family then you’re not actually happy.I don’t think he’s happy to this day in spite of all he’s done in cutting himself off and living the millionaires dream in California.
The Sun has a lot to answer for in what they used to do tho, so I don’t blame him or other celebs for taking it to court.

Anniebach Tue 28-Jan-25 22:26:07

So which is true, Megan was invited to spend Christmas with
the family before they were married, no other engaged partner has received this invite. Harry told the world how happy she was to be welcomed by a family and she had a happy time.
The same family who questioned the colour of the skin of his
unborn child,
Believe what you wish.

Luminance Tue 28-Jan-25 22:17:40

Oh you must trust me that if my family were to treat me badly I would not be holding back at all. People often play victim when indeed they were the perpetrator. I always find it rather astonishing how those types can meet their own gaze in a mirror. Especially those who cannot converse and must argue instead.

Anniebach Tue 28-Jan-25 22:02:35

Has William gone public with a book , many tv interviews?

Luminance Tue 28-Jan-25 21:38:26

I wonder who betrayed whom first quite honestly. Rather sad situation, especially with Joe public coming down on sides without much evidence at all.

Anniebach Tue 28-Jan-25 20:36:06

Another post attacking posters,

flappergirl Tue 28-Jan-25 20:29:36

The whole Royal Family is a dysfunctional, damaged mess and always has been. Harry was a part of that mess and was very, very far from a happy boy/man, which was bleeding obvious to anyone with half a brain. It's risible to blame Meghan. It smacks of desperation to defend and anachronistic, over privileged institution that the public has been brain washed into irrationally adoring. I'm just thankful that the spell has largely been broken amongst younger generations.

Anniebach Tue 28-Jan-25 20:16:32

Betrayal is so wounding , some you have always trusted suddenly betrays you

Iam64 Tue 28-Jan-25 20:07:54

valdali

On his own accounts, over the years, not just since Meghan, he wasn't at all happy or comfortable in his own skin before he married. If he's happier now, I'm pleased for him. He only has one life, he's not our property.

Exactly.
I don’t ’take Sides’ between these brothers or their extended family.
I feel sad for the RF that they’re estranged and distressed whilst in public view. Estrangement is desperately sad for everyone involved.

Anniebach Tue 28-Jan-25 19:55:59

Agree, but why is he so cruel ? he is happy so why his need to hurt others

valdali Tue 28-Jan-25 19:54:22

On his own accounts, over the years, not just since Meghan, he wasn't at all happy or comfortable in his own skin before he married. If he's happier now, I'm pleased for him. He only has one life, he's not our property.

Anniebach Tue 28-Jan-25 19:22:24

Iam Ditto, to tell the world what your brother said whils
both visiting her grave , you respect it if you wish. I think it
cruel

Iam64 Tue 28-Jan-25 19:18:38

Oh give it a rest Anniebach. I respect you but where H and M are concerned …..

Anniebach Tue 28-Jan-25 17:12:14

Not able to support his wife and blood family

Iam64 Tue 28-Jan-25 16:06:34

He’s a much older man and yes he has different responsibility to his wife and children

Anniebach Tue 28-Jan-25 11:47:08

Harry before he married / Harry when married , a much different man

eazybee Tue 28-Jan-25 11:42:06

Harry's life may have taken a different turn had it not been for The Sun

Really? I don't think so.
His own behaviour has contributed much to press interest.
William was subjected to the same treatment; took action, accepted a settlement and moved on.
Harry seems incapable of doing this.

Allira Tue 28-Jan-25 11:14:31

ViceVersa

Anniebach

Was he wronged by his brother ? How are the public wronged

Harry was wronged (along with many others) by The Sun, which is why this whole thread was started.

The Sun is to blame for so much.

Harry's life may have taken a different turn had it not been for The Sun

Anniebach Tue 28-Jan-25 09:36:26

Yes he was, sorry I misunderstood your post