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Ok, so all of you who think we need a Trump here.... what is it that appeals?

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HousePlantQueen Fri 24-Jan-25 13:45:21

I have been alarmed by the number of GN members who seem to seriously be calling for Trump like political leaders in the UK. Leaving aside his racism, bankruptcies, misogyny, sexual assaults, and my 'favourite', mocking a disabled reporter.....which of these executive orders do you find an attractive prospect;

Cancelling the price bar on insulin, was $35 per month, now forecast to be $1500 per month

Cancelling state funding of cancer research

KKK members in the South, roaming the streets, handing out 'go home' leaflets ( I understand this may be appealing to some)

Pardoning criminals who assaulted Police Officers

So, which of these appeals to you?

Oreo Fri 24-Jan-25 22:55:53

Indigo8

^People need to learn that they can't just go and live in any country they please.^

Even elementary knowledge of American history will tell you that that is precisely what the European settlers did. They killed and dispossessed large numbers of Native Americans in the process.

Well nobody can do that now!

Indigo8 Fri 24-Jan-25 22:54:54

People need to learn that they can't just go and live in any country they please.

Even elementary knowledge of American history will tell you that that is precisely what the European settlers did. They killed and dispossessed large numbers of Native Americans in the process.

Oreo Fri 24-Jan-25 22:45:43

I think all US States have different rules and regs and sadly some already it has to be said, even under the Biden presidency, chosen to be totally prolife with no abortions allowed.More States may follow suit, particularly in the South and the Bible Belt.
The US is nothing like the UK on these matters.

Casdon Fri 24-Jan-25 22:42:05

Oreo

No, the point they may wish to make is that they won’t go along with a goady thread, calling it flouncing is just insulting and trivialising them for the sake of it.
I guess I don’t like unfairness in general and am seeing a lot of it on here.
Posters being hooked in to a thread to be roasted and everyone knows it.
Why not concentrate on what DT does, he’s the main event, not other forum members, or is that too much to ask I wonder.

I haven’t goaded anybody Oreo. Flouncing is the right word though for somebody who announces they are leaving or not participating in a thread, whatever it’s about - why bother to do that if you don’t want to be noticed? Anyway, we’ll have to agree to disagree on this issue, and as you say, get back to the point.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-Jan-25 22:41:01

This must be like a dystopian nightmare to US citizens.

I’d be frightened to death to tell anyone I was pregnant in case I miscarried.

I’d be frightened to death that my children would be witness to their friends being dragged from the classroom and taken goodness knows where.

This is becoming a nightmare without end.

Kate1949 Fri 24-Jan-25 22:39:50

Oh no I'm not questioning you imaround, I'm just gobsmacked by how quickly this is happening.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 24-Jan-25 22:32:31

Claremont I have just sussed who you were previously. You have yet another new name!

You recently called me out - which I didn’t mind - and I explained my change of user name was because of admin problems and not only wasn’t it a secret I had explained openly on different threads why I had changed and who I used to be.

Your turn now!

Oreo Fri 24-Jan-25 22:31:07

No!
Mumof3 is only saying pretty much what Starmer says about illegal immigration.
She doesn’t approve of the KKK at all.

imaround Fri 24-Jan-25 22:30:43

He is also rounding up people who are here legally. Refugees.

Claremont Fri 24-Jan-25 22:29:44

Oreo

We know that DT is doing some wrong and quite vengeful and worrying things, so any dismay and dislike should be reserved for him and not other forum members IMO.

If GN members approve and support what he is doing, why should others not be dismayed and indicate dislike of their approval?

Oreo Fri 24-Jan-25 22:28:24

No, the point they may wish to make is that they won’t go along with a goady thread, calling it flouncing is just insulting and trivialising them for the sake of it.
I guess I don’t like unfairness in general and am seeing a lot of it on here.
Posters being hooked in to a thread to be roasted and everyone knows it.
Why not concentrate on what DT does, he’s the main event, not other forum members, or is that too much to ask I wonder.

Claremont Fri 24-Jan-25 22:27:09

Oreo

Claremont

Kandinsky

Agree Oreo
These threads, & many of the posts on them, are just goady, pure & simple.
So childish.
And they wonder why no one wants to play their silly games.

Silly games- goady! So we a criminal, supported by more criminals, and the KKK, has been elected. He and they are putting the whole world at risk, but we are not allowed to ask any question? Talk about free speech here! So some you approve of the KKK threatening people with violence, or so called Patriots attacking elected Senators and attacking and injuring police on duty. These are not silly games, they are dangerous, VERY dangerous.

And then some refuse to see the similarities with 1933.

I truly want to know what people admire in Trump- as I cannot see it.

Where is anyone at all approving of the KKK threatening people with violence?
I think you should calm down and not accuse fellow GN members of things they have never said.
I have no time for DT at all but for those who do and don’t wish to be faced with being given the third degree I don’t blame them one bit.

Well, this comes pretty close no, from Mumof3

Trump made clear his intentions, so the illegals have had plenty of warning....and now that warning is being repeated.
People have to learn that they can't just go and live in any country they please. They need to go through the proper procedures. If they are refused, they must accept it.

LizzieDrip Fri 24-Jan-25 22:23:20

Please read this report from The Independent. We need to know that this is happening

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/hamline-elementary-school-chicago-ice-b2686044.html

imaround I’m beginning to feel like I’m in a dystopian novel, and I’m thousands of miles away from it all - so God knows how you must be feelingflowers

imaround Fri 24-Jan-25 22:21:53

Kate1949

A lot of this must be hearsay. He's only been President for a couple of days!

I'm not sure how much more proof I can provide you that this is really happening, and quickly.

You are welcome to fact check me at any point by using Google. Or, just click on the links I have provided you?

Galaxy Fri 24-Jan-25 22:20:05

oh i love a good flounce - I am useless at them

Casdon Fri 24-Jan-25 22:18:39

Oreo

Maybe they wish to make a point.

Of course they do. That’s what flouncing is.

imaround Fri 24-Jan-25 22:18:12

LizzieDrip

^A Chicago elementary school (ages 5 to about 10 in the US), has turned away ICE agents today, not allowing them into the building^

Thanks imaround.

I must admit I had to look for news of this online before I could allow myself to believe it (sorry imaroundflowers).

Yes, there are several reports about it.

Unthinkable!

Well done to that brave school staff.

I dont blame you. It all seems so unbelievable all around. I feel like I am living in the Twilight Zone.

Kate1949 Fri 24-Jan-25 22:17:44

A lot of this must be hearsay. He's only been President for a couple of days!

Oreo Fri 24-Jan-25 22:17:41

Maybe they wish to make a point.

Casdon Fri 24-Jan-25 22:15:33

Oreo

Casdon

It doesn’t matter really, people who want to talk about it can, and people who want to flounce can too.

I don’t think anyone is flouncing from the forum just quite rightly keeping out of a goading thread.Probably for the best as threads like this don’t end well.

I meant flouncing from the thread, which is what you’re doing if you announce it. Just not participating if you don’t want to is good enough.

Oreo Fri 24-Jan-25 22:14:05

We know that DT is doing some wrong and quite vengeful and worrying things, so any dismay and dislike should be reserved for him and not other forum members IMO.

LizzieDrip Fri 24-Jan-25 22:13:14

ICE officers can now raid schools and churches!

Oreo Fri 24-Jan-25 22:10:24

Claremont

Kandinsky

Agree Oreo
These threads, & many of the posts on them, are just goady, pure & simple.
So childish.
And they wonder why no one wants to play their silly games.

Silly games- goady! So we a criminal, supported by more criminals, and the KKK, has been elected. He and they are putting the whole world at risk, but we are not allowed to ask any question? Talk about free speech here! So some you approve of the KKK threatening people with violence, or so called Patriots attacking elected Senators and attacking and injuring police on duty. These are not silly games, they are dangerous, VERY dangerous.

And then some refuse to see the similarities with 1933.

I truly want to know what people admire in Trump- as I cannot see it.

Where is anyone at all approving of the KKK threatening people with violence?
I think you should calm down and not accuse fellow GN members of things they have never said.
I have no time for DT at all but for those who do and don’t wish to be faced with being given the third degree I don’t blame them one bit.

LizzieDrip Fri 24-Jan-25 22:08:24

A Chicago elementary school (ages 5 to about 10 in the US), has turned away ICE agents today, not allowing them into the building

Thanks imaround.

I must admit I had to look for news of this online before I could allow myself to believe it (sorry imaroundflowers).

Yes, there are several reports about it.

Unthinkable!

Well done to that brave school staff.

Oreo Fri 24-Jan-25 22:02:20

Casdon

It doesn’t matter really, people who want to talk about it can, and people who want to flounce can too.

I don’t think anyone is flouncing from the forum just quite rightly keeping out of a goading thread.Probably for the best as threads like this don’t end well.