Ok, so all of you who think we need a Trump here.... what is it that appeals?

None of them for me.
I don’t like the man and I’m glad I’m not American because the choice between him and Harris was awful. I don’t think I’d have voted at all in that election. Both parties need to up their game and get some decent candidates ready for the next election.

Kamala Harris actually won 48% of the overall vote, 74,999,166 votes.

Almost 75m US citizens didn’t vote for Trump, quite a lot of people don’t want him as POTUS in his own country.

Why on earth anyone else in any other country would want him as their leader beggars belief.

Why would anyone want a criminal as their political leader. Trump, Vance and Musk are the worst examples of men who are leading or involved in leading the US.

I too am puzzled at those Gransnetters, who think Trump is wonderful. It beggars belief.

I have a feeling that you going to wait a very long time before any Trump supporter sticks its head above the parapet, don't hold your breath.

We know they are out there.

I look forward to reading what appeals to anyone here because it’s beyond my imagination. I can’t think of one redeeming feature.

Marydoll

I too am puzzled at those Gransnetters, who think Trump is wonderful. It beggars belief.

It’s such a coincidence that so many Reform supporters are also Trump supporters?

As odious as Farage is, Trump is in a completely different class!

I dunno Indigo. We know there are some on here who praise him and would like him for PM. Surely they won’t be backward in coming forward to explain his appeal?

Another thread with one aim…

No appeal.

GrannyGravy13

Another thread with one aim…

I get where you’re coming from, really I do, but a few GNs have said they support Trump and would like him as our PM (heaven forbid and frankly both obscene and laughable) and if they do feel this strongly about him surely they can articulate why?

I voted Labour, I have said several times why and that I don’t agree with some of the stuff they’ve done nor how it’s been implemented, but I still support Starmer, and I’d admit publicity that like every other human, he has flaws.

Why can’t the Trump supporters tell us why they think he’s so great?

I was discussing this with DH only this morning. We came to the conclusion that, in politics as in all things, there's nowt so queer as folks. A relative of mine (who shall remain nameless) was s staunch Tory. He was born into a working-class family of coal miners. He was brought up on a miserably low income in conditions you wouldn't keep a dog in. He witnessed first-hand the awful conditions under which countless people worked (indeed, he worked under those conditions himself). When he was injured at work he was kicked out without so much as a thankyou and goodbye. And yet he thought the sun shone out of Margaret Thatcher's rear end. Yes, people, it truly does beggar belief.

Well, I’ve got my cuppa and feet up waiting to read how great Mr Trump is.. I’ll send out for popcorn and ice-cream later.

Have any of you actually listened to Farage, or Trump for that matter.
I heard Farage answer questions, one from a smug bespectacled journo, whose arms crossed all the time,not defensive then was he?. Farage answered clearly, calmly with passion. Unlike our wooden pm. Even disputed what the bespectacled one was trying to shout over him, re immigration of course, answered every question without starmers and the rest of the Labour Party deflecting as they always do, they never answer a direct question properly.
I even listened to Trump, "love him, or hate him, he does as he says, gets things done" American journalist on CNN.

He delivers for his voter-base, or talks the talk of doing so. Many people admire that without endorsing what he does.

I agree - no idea what Trump’s appeal might be. I’m feeling very afraid for vulnerable people in the US and for the wider consequences for the world with him as President.

I think the question should be why were the democrats so off putting that people would rather have voted for Trump.

Some people are always attracted by those who seem sure and have self-belief.

Myself I think history shows us how very dangerous that can be.

But, not withstanding the man personally, there is something a bit satisfying about watching the people who habitually ignore others, shout them down and denigrate them, getting a taste of their own medicine; at a loss because their usual tactics don’t work on someone more ntolerant than themselves 🤔

I think what Trump, Farage, Musk all have in common is an unwavering belief that they are right, and . and many people (not me) believe that they will get things done..

They also have the ability to rebuff any criticism with ease.

It doesn't seem to matter how harmful their policies will be to progressive policies..or how many people will suffer as a result.

I can't understand the mentality of people who want Trump to be Prime Minister.
Why would they want a racist, who talks about his proud boys and who pardoned some if the though who took part in the insurrection. I think the morals of his supporters is questionable.

Some of the thugs,nit if the though.

I heard Farage answer questions, one from a smug bespectacled journo
disputed what the bespectacled one was trying to shout over him

I’ve never seen “bespectacled” used as a derogatory adjective before, Freya5. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Galaxy

I think the question should be why were the democrats so off putting that people would rather have voted for Trump.

Yes, I agree that is an important point. The Democrats left Biden in office too late, and there never really was the time to imbed Harris as a viable candidate ( if she ever was). I can see the attraction of a candidate who wants to put your country first, but I just cannot understand supporting a man who is prepared to dismiss the laws of your country if they do not suit him.

I am sorry if you think this is a 'thread with one aim' GG13, but over the past couple of weeks we have been bombarded with antagonistic and provocative threads criticising everything that Starmer has done, blaming for everything that has gone wrong, and many of those same posters have lauded Trump and said that they would like to see a leader with his 'qualities'. Surely it is not unreasonable that the Trump supporters share their reasons for this.

Todays humour - (BBC live feed)

"And while warning of "trillions of dollars" in tariffs on foreign imports, Trump says Canada could become a US state to avoid them"

Todays awfulness about womens health, despite Trump appearing to be OK on some abortion rights before the election"
Donald Trump has pardoned 23 anti-abortion activists, including some convicted of blockading a reproductive health clinic and intimidating staff and patients

and is expected later on Friday to address via videolink America's largest annual anti-abortion rally March for Life in Washington DC. Lets see his true colours by what he says.