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Trump has only been in office 4 days

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Arto1s Sat 25-Jan-25 03:49:30

What a wonderful start to his Presidency. Today he visited North Carolina and California. His meeting with the local people must have been so uplifting for them, having been let down by the previous government.
He speaks so much sense. Please take time to really listen to what he is saying before slamming him to the wall.
Thank you.

Cossy Sat 25-Jan-25 10:02:05

Kandinsky

This isn’t a goady thread.
It’s not demanding people explain themselves as to why they voted brexit or like Donald Trump.

Anyway, what are Trump haters doing on this thread? Haven’t you got enough of your own Trump bashing threads? One even has a post wishing the bullet had killed him!
And I get pulled up for calling people illegals.

I beg to differ, of course it’s goads and toady!

We are not Trump (or Vance or Musk or Farage) haters, we are compassionate people, some who have strong links to the USA, who are rightly voicing their concerns, just like some on here have continually voiced their concerns and Labour/Starmer bashed. It’s no different.

Cossy Sat 25-Jan-25 10:04:24

HousePlantQueen

Oh the irony. Same posters who only yesterday accused some of starting goady threads. Same unpleasant language too "illegals" and that old Brexit favourite aimed at Remainers "suck it up". I suggest we leave the deluded Trump fan club to their echo chamber, I like a good robust political discussion, but I suspect this thread isn't it

Actually HPQ, on reflection you’re so right.

We will leave them to worship their Gods and watch with interest! thanks

Oreo Sat 25-Jan-25 10:12:26

HousePlantQueen

Oh the irony. Same posters who only yesterday accused some of starting goady threads. Same unpleasant language too "illegals" and that old Brexit favourite aimed at Remainers "suck it up". I suggest we leave the deluded Trump fan club to their echo chamber, I like a good robust political discussion, but I suspect this thread isn't it

You may not like it, but the title of this thread is nothing like the goady tone of the other which asked posters to justify themselves.
Illegals is just shorthand for illegal immigrants and is used widely.
You may leave if you like, it’s your choice.
I’m interested in all kinds of views.

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 25-Jan-25 12:05:17

I do find it unpleasant when some Trump supporters then find that their admiration for him means that they must make them voice dislike of the British government.
The British cabinet is " getting things done", also, as in Cossy's post.
And nanna8, we do have freedom of speech in the UK ( unless it is inciting hate) but most of us prefer to speak respectfully of our fellow human beings-we're funny that way.

Arto1s Sat 25-Jan-25 16:14:16

cossy Yes, I live in California, been here 35 years.
As to the abortion question, I am totally for freedom of choice. It would be impossible to agree with all of Trump’s policies.
However, most states will do what they want thank goodness. We don’t actually live under a dictatorship as many on here seem to think. I have lived in the UK and now here. I know which I prefer, which is no criticism towards the UK by the way. Life is full of choices and I made mine many years ago.

Babs03 Sat 25-Jan-25 16:46:05

nanna8

They call them illegal migrants here but you are not allowed to say that in the uk because they don’t have freedom of speech. .

When has anyone stopped people taking about illegals immigration in the UK. Is all that anyone bangs on about, in the tabloids, in government, the opposition, and regularly on threads on GN.
This is a spurious accusation.

Babs03 Sat 25-Jan-25 16:46:51

Correction - illegal immigration

Hithere Sat 25-Jan-25 17:38:09

Op

Are you a troll?

His reply on CA fires is less than empathetic and rational

Claremont Sat 25-Jan-25 17:50:25

Kandinsky

Oh give it a rest cossy fgs.

Please do. Give your imigration obssession a rest fgs.

Babs03 Sat 25-Jan-25 18:02:44

I have nothing against people singing Trumps praises, but would like it to be based on all his policies and how feasible or realistic they are, not just because he is cracking down hard on illegal migrants. The US has huge problems relating to gun crimes, poverty, a lack of health care, mass unemployment in the rust belt etc., etc., so how is he tackling all of this.
All I have heard so far is that he letting crypto currency gangsters out of jail, giving a rallying call to the ICE and KKK to go on a witch hunt, and is curtailing women's rights as per.
What about the rest, as in actually doing something about the many other - and some would say more imperative - issues facing people in the US?

foxie48 Sat 25-Jan-25 18:08:37

Arto1s As a Californian citizen who do you feel about Trump's suggestion to get rid of FEMA?

Babs03 Sat 25-Jan-25 18:12:45

Chocolatelovinggran

I do find it unpleasant when some Trump supporters then find that their admiration for him means that they must make them voice dislike of the British government.
The British cabinet is " getting things done", also, as in Cossy's post.
And nanna8, we do have freedom of speech in the UK ( unless it is inciting hate) but most of us prefer to speak respectfully of our fellow human beings-we're funny that way.

It isn't that many bemoan a lack of freedom of speech, they bemoan the right to do it unchallenged and without being hauled up when they teeter on the edge of racism.
In my experience people are not only free to talk about illegal migrants, they do so at every opportunity.

Arto1s Sat 25-Jan-25 18:26:26

foxie48 FEMA were sadly lacking in North Carolina as the people there will testify.

Arto1s Sat 25-Jan-25 18:27:44

Hithere I find your question quite offensive. Why on earth would you think I’m a troll?

Babs03 Sat 25-Jan-25 18:33:52

@Artols, I didn't think you were a troll but did wonder if your post was a wind-up.
I stand corrected.

Arto1s Sat 25-Jan-25 18:42:11

Hithere Thank you.

Babs03 Sat 25-Jan-25 18:51:16

Arto1s

Hithere Thank you.

😂
Am sure Hithere will be glad of the thanks though she might wonder what it’s for.

Arto1s Sat 25-Jan-25 19:01:31

And what is your sarcastic response supposed to mean Babs03?

Rosie51 Sat 25-Jan-25 19:09:27

Artols it was Babs03 who posted she didn't think you were a troll, you thanked the wrong poster.

Babs03 Sat 25-Jan-25 19:11:37

Arto1s

And what is your sarcastic response supposed to mean Babs03?

Not sarcastic, was joking about the fact that you thanked Hithere for something that I said - if you read back a bit you'll understand.
Never mind, will get my coat.

Arto1s Sat 25-Jan-25 19:31:47

Sarcasm again Babs03. So I missed it, made a mistake. Shoot me.

LizzieDrip Sat 25-Jan-25 19:32:18

They call them illegal migrants here but you are not allowed to say that in the uk because they don’t have freedom of speech

nanna8 as I’ve lived in the UK for 68 years and I understand you have lived in Australia for quite a long time, I feel justified in saying that I’m more of an authority on life in the UK than you are.

Therefore, I’d like to put you straight on one thing - we do have freedom of speech in the UK.

There you go!

Claremont Sat 25-Jan-25 19:37:20

Arto1s

Hithere I find your question quite offensive. Why on earth would you think I’m a troll?

People have been making wild assumptions today, don't worry. Welcome.

Babs03 Sat 25-Jan-25 19:44:07

LizzieDrip

^They call them illegal migrants here but you are not allowed to say that in the uk because they don’t have freedom of speech^

nanna8 as I’ve lived in the UK for 68 years and I understand you have lived in Australia for quite a long time, I feel justified in saying that I’m more of an authority on life in the UK than you are.

Therefore, I’d like to put you straight on one thing - we do have freedom of speech in the UK.

There you go!

V true, as is illustrated by the many posters on here who post regularly about illegal migrants.

foxie48 Sat 25-Jan-25 19:46:48

Arto1s

foxie48 FEMA were sadly lacking in North Carolina as the people there will testify.

I'm rather confused, what did you expect FEMA to do?

"FEMA has provided more than $316 million in cash grants to Western North Carolina survivors, including more than $6.2 million in rental assistance. The U.S. Small Business Administration has also approved more than $213 million in low-interest loans to help survivors."