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Four Israeli female soldiers released this morning

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GrannyGravy13 Sat 25-Jan-25 09:20:26

Four young women who have been held hostage by Hamas for 15 months have been released this morning. I dread to think what they have experienced during their captivity.

They are being exchanged for 200 Palestinian prisoners.

The BBC’s Middle East correspondent reported this morning that amongst the Palestinians there will be many convicted criminals who are being extradited to Countries who have agreed to accept them. They will not be allowed to remain in Gaza or the West Bank.

I cannot understand the ratio 4 - 200?

growstuff Sun 26-Jan-25 22:28:16

Anniebach

My Jewish friends don’t agree

So what do your friends think? Do they agree that all Palestinians should be forced to relocate and Israel should take full control of the territory?

Kalm Sun 26-Jan-25 22:24:41

Anniebach

My Jewish friends don’t agree

It is only the Zionists who tend not to agree, perhaps they need to be educated. Many Palestinians are held in administrative detention which is illegal against Israel's laws. No international oversight is allowed. Many are in jail because they peacefully protest from the settler violence. The settlers have had sanctions imposed by the UK/EU.
You would be surprised at the surprisingly large number of Jews in the UK and USA who want a complete rethink of Israel and what it stands for, the anti semitic argument no longer can be used against valid political criticism. My friends also disagree that Palestinians should be cleansed from Gaza.....

Anniebach Sun 26-Jan-25 22:04:10

My Jewish friends don’t agree

Kalm Sun 26-Jan-25 22:00:30

And may be the Knesset and Trump should learn, especially the phrase "clean-out" Gaza; the phrase is related to the final solution, a book recommended to me by a Jewish friend "The Origins of the Final Solution : The Evolution of Nazi Jewish Policy, September 1939 – March 1942. - Christopher Browning"
My friend's view we should not be scared of looking at the Gaza genocide through the prism of the holocaust. I hope all the Palestinian prisoners are released as well including the women and children

GrannyGravy13 Sun 26-Jan-25 21:22:32

Tomorrow is the 80th Anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz.

Holocaust Memorial Day

I hope the rest of the Israeli hostages including the children and babies are released soon.

Kalm Sun 26-Jan-25 21:09:32

I am happy all captives are being released. The Israeli hostages looked happy and healthy and were being referred to as Habibi, a term of strong endearment.
The most right wing neo fascist genocidal Israeli govt whose leader along with others is a "wanted" man; even they agreed on the terms of release. Yet in bewilderment there are pro Zionists who think Palestinians in captivity should not have been released. Smellrich was one of them.
On the other hand the Palestinian prisoners looked dejected and weary. Both sides I am sure were also happy at returning to their families, but the way the BBC along with Sky was racist in the extreme and most of the right wing MSM framed the release was beyond belief. Both sides of prisoners were treated in accordance with the Geneva convention and the ICRC protocols
However the "white western" channels of usually anti muslim/arab countries the France24, RAI did attempt fairness, covering both sets of prisoners . Just sad very sad. We have to learn to treat all races equally and with justice. It

Whitewavemark2 Sun 26-Jan-25 20:42:24

Those poor poor people.

Allira Sun 26-Jan-25 20:23:02

A third of Jordan's population are refugees.

Just how many is a small country supposed to absorb?

pascal30 Sun 26-Jan-25 19:38:59

Claremont

pascal30

So now the American diplomats for Israel are saying that they believe that Jews have a biblical right to the West Bank BBC news today

so is Annie right here.

well I think there is a definite move towards justifying getting rid of all Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza under Trump's administration..

theworriedwell Sun 26-Jan-25 19:07:18

Anniebach

Explains why Hamas terrorists and large number of Palestinians, male, look so healthy

And the 7 hostages. Personally I feel happy for them. Shame some people can't.

Oreo Sun 26-Jan-25 18:59:51

David49

Egypt has stated the they want nothing to do with Palestinians, they have enough homegrown terrorists, Jordan didn’t shed too many tears when Israel took over the West Bank.

Both are paid billions by the US which maintains large armies to control internal terrorists.

I agree, can’t see any of the neighbouring countries wanting them.

Claremont Sun 26-Jan-25 18:54:36

pascal30

So now the American diplomats for Israel are saying that they believe that Jews have a biblical right to the West Bank BBC news today

so is Annie right here.

pascal30 Sun 26-Jan-25 18:49:45

David49

Egypt has stated the they want nothing to do with Palestinians, they have enough homegrown terrorists, Jordan didn’t shed too many tears when Israel took over the West Bank.

Both are paid billions by the US which maintains large armies to control internal terrorists.

That's interesting David,, so I wonder how they will respond to Trumps suggestions then.. maybe he'll with draw financial support if they refuse to take the million and a half Palestinians he is talking about..

David49 Sun 26-Jan-25 18:28:39

Egypt has stated the they want nothing to do with Palestinians, they have enough homegrown terrorists, Jordan didn’t shed too many tears when Israel took over the West Bank.

Both are paid billions by the US which maintains large armies to control internal terrorists.

lixy Sun 26-Jan-25 17:04:45

Not the topic of this thread I know but the irony of Mr Trump who is busy ‘repatriating’ people from the US asking another country to take refugees is just staggering.

On topic, the deep-felt need for ‘homeland’ will be even more intense after the past 18 months. While the ceasefire is most welcome I have an unease about what will happen next and fear that David is right in that the Israelis will strike very hard.

Anniebach Sun 26-Jan-25 16:51:44

And building houses for the wealthy Jews ?

pascal30 Sun 26-Jan-25 16:48:29

Anniebach

BBC News - So I'd rather get involved with some of the Arab nations and build housing at a different location where maybe they can live in peace for a change." Trump

Trump in cahoots with Netanyahu..it's all about expansion..

Anniebach Sun 26-Jan-25 16:45:29

BBC News - So I'd rather get involved with some of the Arab nations and build housing at a different location where maybe they can live in peace for a change." Trump

pascal30 Sun 26-Jan-25 16:41:05

Whitewavemark2

pascal30

Whitewavemark2

I read that Trump is suggesting that Egypt, Jordan and other countries should take in the Palestinians.

I assume this will then leave Gaza and West Bank free for the Israelis.

Yes I wrote that earlier...1 and a half million.. Apparently Zionists are looking forward to building in Gaza..

Sorry I’ve been out getting my new cat😊.

I know that Trumps Sil has been looking at potentially developing high end houses on the coast.

Make a tidy profit no doubt, and nice holiday homes for the better off Israeli.

How lovely.. enjoy..

Anniebach Sun 26-Jan-25 16:29:13

Whitewave I read - build houses for those leaving Gaza,

Mt61 Sun 26-Jan-25 16:18:37

They were made to dress up as soldiers, they were in shorts & pyjamas when they were kidnapped! No guns In sight!

Whitewavemark2 Sun 26-Jan-25 16:06:56

pascal30

Whitewavemark2

I read that Trump is suggesting that Egypt, Jordan and other countries should take in the Palestinians.

I assume this will then leave Gaza and West Bank free for the Israelis.

Yes I wrote that earlier...1 and a half million.. Apparently Zionists are looking forward to building in Gaza..

Sorry I’ve been out getting my new cat😊.

I know that Trumps Sil has been looking at potentially developing high end houses on the coast.

Make a tidy profit no doubt, and nice holiday homes for the better off Israeli.

Anniebach Sun 26-Jan-25 15:38:12

Zionists are a Jewish Nationalist Movement

pascal30 Sun 26-Jan-25 15:33:16

Whitewavemark2

I read that Trump is suggesting that Egypt, Jordan and other countries should take in the Palestinians.

I assume this will then leave Gaza and West Bank free for the Israelis.

Yes I wrote that earlier...1 and a half million.. Apparently Zionists are looking forward to building in Gaza..

Whitewavemark2 Sun 26-Jan-25 15:27:16

I read that Trump is suggesting that Egypt, Jordan and other countries should take in the Palestinians.

I assume this will then leave Gaza and West Bank free for the Israelis.