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The Guardian reports that Trump says all Palestinians should move out of Gaza

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Claremont Sun 26-Jan-25 18:31:18

as he agrees to deliver a massive number of bombs for the IDF- so they can clear the country.

Are they planning the Ben Gurrion Canal yet- was it was this is all about, as some suspected a long time ago.

Call me cynical andpessimistic. Where on earth are they supposed to go?

TakeThat7 Sun 26-Jan-25 21:25:10

Won't Israel just follow the Palestinians they kept moving them around Gaza and still attacked them when they moved

Claremont Sun 26-Jan-25 21:26:59

Thank you for this MayBee- I remember this but would have never found it.

Casdon, territory should go right back to initial 1948- all expansion since has been illegal.

Anniebach Sun 26-Jan-25 21:28:54

Can’t read it , thank you

pascal30 Sun 26-Jan-25 21:29:42

Claremont

Thank you for this MayBee- I remember this but would have never found it.

Casdon, territory should go right back to initial 1948- all expansion since has been illegal.

Of course it should Claremont in a just world.. but it's not going to happen now is it?

pascal30 Sun 26-Jan-25 21:32:16

Oh NO.. Starmer is now praising Trump for his role in the ceasefire... AAAAHHH

Casdon Sun 26-Jan-25 21:42:17

pascal30

Claremont

Thank you for this MayBee- I remember this but would have never found it.

Casdon, territory should go right back to initial 1948- all expansion since has been illegal.

Of course it should Claremont in a just world.. but it's not going to happen now is it?

Definitely not, which is why I suggested a buffer zone as I can’t see any other viable solution.

imaround Sun 26-Jan-25 21:42:42

Guess who has a stake in rebuilding GAZA?

The real estate baron himself, who has refused to divest his business dealings. It is a HUGE conflict of interest.

He has stopped all aid to Ukriane as well. I heard.

MayBee70 Sun 26-Jan-25 21:42:49

Claremont

Thank you for this MayBee- I remember this but would have never found it.

Casdon, territory should go right back to initial 1948- all expansion since has been illegal.

Annoyingly I only have one page of a two page article but it must have stuck in my mind over the years. I do resent though that any sympathy for the Palestinian people, who were literally thrown out of their homes, is regarded as being anti semitic, because I would feel sympathy for anyone in that situation. Why weren’t the press allowed into Gaza? Why do accusations of war crimes made by respected organisations such as Amnesty International come to nothing after comments such as ‘this will be investigated’. I mean, the IRA murdered people but we didn’t, to my knowledge, raise Ireland to the ground. I do understand that there are two sides to this and it’s very complicated but my brain can’t comprehend what has been done to Gaza. How people were moved to supposedly safe areas and then bombed. I just don’t get it.

Anniebach Sun 26-Jan-25 21:56:15

Yes two sides to this. Who has said sympathy for Palestinians is
anti semitism ?

Speaking of the Holocaust as something from the past , is anti
Semitic . On Holocaust Remembrance Day last year there was thread, one post listed countries where there had been troubles
it diminished the Holocaust, is anti semitic

My opinion, no different to all posts, each posters opinions

Allsorts Sun 26-Jan-25 21:56:24

Israel obviously does not follow the Ten Commandments, in particularly the sixth..what has happened is Genocide but nothing will happen, Trump is their friend. Can you see Starmer not supporting Israel when his wife and family are Jewish..
Where are the Palestinians supposed to go, must be half the children have lost limbs.their country is raised to the ground. Israel got what they wanted, vengeance, the destruction of a people. It will comeback to them though in a way they cant think of.

Casdon Sun 26-Jan-25 22:00:11

To be clear Allsorts Starmer has never indicated that he supports any moves to deprive the citizens of Gaza of their territory.

Anniebach Sun 26-Jan-25 22:02:27

If as majority here claim , Israel wants Gaza that is not genocide ,

Nasty dig at Starmer, more than nasty !

25Avalon Sun 26-Jan-25 22:04:26

Trump was talking about sending them to Egypt. No mention of them returning however.

petra Sun 26-Jan-25 22:07:20

pascal30

Oh NO.. Starmer is now praising Trump for his role in the ceasefire... AAAAHHH

How do we know for sure he didn’t.
In the only way Trump does things I think he made a very threatening call to Ali Khamenei informing him that if he didn’t tell his puppets ( Hamas) to sign all hell would break loose.
And then there’s the talks going on Re Irans nuclear program. Of which Iran needs trump.

Babs03 Sun 26-Jan-25 22:07:29

25Avalon

Trump was talking about sending them to Egypt. No mention of them returning however.

Palestinians know that if they ever leave they will have no right to return. There are Palestinian refugees in Jordan who have lived there for decades who have no right to return.
Once they go that’s it.

MayBee70 Sun 26-Jan-25 22:09:18

Anniebach

Yes two sides to this. Who has said sympathy for Palestinians is
anti semitism ?

Speaking of the Holocaust as something from the past , is anti
Semitic . On Holocaust Remembrance Day last year there was thread, one post listed countries where there had been troubles
it diminished the Holocaust, is anti semitic

My opinion, no different to all posts, each posters opinions

I just ‘feel’ that I daren’t say anything about my horror of what has happened to the people of Gaza. And I think Netanyahu is a bad bad man who I don’t trust. And I don’t think that many Israelis trust him either. I think he’s let them down badly.

madeleine45 Sun 26-Jan-25 22:13:10

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Syracute Sun 26-Jan-25 22:13:18

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/19/jared-kushner-gaza-waterfront-property-israel-negev

Syracute Sun 26-Jan-25 22:15:29

So clearly Trump family members have their on on profiting if the Palestinians are forced from their land !

Anniebach Sun 26-Jan-25 22:17:22

Netanyahu won an election in 2022

Hamas in 2007

growstuff Sun 26-Jan-25 22:23:29

Anniebach

Yes two sides to this. Who has said sympathy for Palestinians is
anti semitism ?

Speaking of the Holocaust as something from the past , is anti
Semitic . On Holocaust Remembrance Day last year there was thread, one post listed countries where there had been troubles
it diminished the Holocaust, is anti semitic

My opinion, no different to all posts, each posters opinions

Speaking of the Holocaust as something from the past , is anti Semitic .

Do you mean as Musk has done? When addressing the AfD, he said, "Children should not be guilty of the sins of their parents, let alone their great-grandparents. There is too much focus on past guilt, and we need to move beyond that."

Anniebach Sun 26-Jan-25 22:48:42

I said dismissing the Holocaust was anti semitic . I don’t follow
Musk

Kalm Sun 26-Jan-25 23:04:41

So the former chief prosecutor in E&W has congratulated a convicted criminal and his other Nazi henchmen.
The Palestinians should stay put because on the day of judgment in the hereafter God will be just with them, that is their core belief. Why should the Palestinians pay for their own homes ? I would of course support the right of the injured Gazans to get medical treatment in the UK/EU/USA or the GCC countries but they should not have to pay.

Nonnato2 Mon 27-Jan-25 07:20:41

madeleine45

I have never advocated murder ever, but when it comes to Trump I would consider it pest control. What a shame that the aim only got the ear, but then of course there would be no brains to aim at would there!! I despair of a world where such people as Trump are actually chosen. What does that say about the american people who can choose to have a lying cheating criminal for their president. Not that we can say much when you think of Boris having the audacity to make laws which he did not see included him!! I must go and play some J S Bach to soothe me before I go to bed or whill have nightmares thiking of this lot. OH Spitting Image where are you now??!!

What a disgusting thing to say. I don’t wish ANYONE dead.

David49 Mon 27-Jan-25 07:35:19

Nobody wants Palestinians, Egypt and Jordan have both refused to take any refugees, they both have plenty of trouble controlling their own terrorists. Both also get massive military aid from the US to do that. Maybe Iran would like to help their allies?. The truth is nobody wants anything to do with Palestinians they are trouble.

As for developing Gaza let’s end the fighting first, when it’s secure then it will be rebuilt.

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