The Guardian reports that Trump says all Palestinians should move out of Gaza

Oreo

‘Forfeited all its sympathetic vote’
Ye Gods!
I would say it’s hamas and supporters whose behaviour has been beyond the pale for a number of years.

This is not as I’m sure you know an either/or situation.

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Oreo

‘Forfeited all its sympathetic vote’
Ye Gods!
I would say it’s hamas and supporters whose behaviour has been beyond the pale for a number of years.

This is not as I’m sure you know an either/or situation.

So you think it’s OK for Hamas to take hostages and rid Israel of Jews, using Gazas civilians as propaganda human sacrifices.

Anniebach

Palestinians live in Palestinian, where do Zionists live ?

About 2 million Palestinians live in Israel.

Israelis live in Israel.

Zionists may live in many different countries.

Don't you think, David if that is so, that Israeli leaders are intelligent enough to have realised it and called their bluff by NOT treating them as secondclass and encouraging settlers to push them off their Gaza lands? Or to NOT make a bad situation worse by flattening Gaza and escalating their response to the October incident by tens and hundreds of times of deaths and the intended annihilation of the Palestinians? We know that the Old Testament ethos was "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" and that much retribution would probably have been accepted, but multiplying the punishment so much is not justice, it is genocide.

Elegran

Don't you think, David if that is so, that Israeli leaders are intelligent enough to have realised it and called their bluff by NOT treating them as secondclass and encouraging settlers to push them off their Gaza lands? Or to NOT make a bad situation worse by flattening Gaza and escalating their response to the October incident by tens and hundreds of times of deaths and the intended annihilation of the Palestinians? We know that the Old Testament ethos was "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" and that much retribution would probably have been accepted, but multiplying the punishment so much is not justice, it is genocide.

Hamas didn’t start the war to avenge the loss of land in the West Bank it was started to rid Israel of Jews.

it is genocide
That is a misuse of the word genocide.

Contrast what happened in the Nazi concentration camps with press photos of Hamas handing over Israeli hostages. Do Hamas operatives and the jeering crowds of men look as if they are victims of a holocaust, does it look like genocide?

Women and children may be suffering greatly as a result of this war but these men do not look as if they are suffering. The women and children are their human shields.

There is propaganda coming from both sides as thers always is in conflicts.

I read a letter in our local paper with an alternative suggestion for Trump's plan to rebuild Gaza having got rid of all the Palestinians. Why not simply rehouse all the Israelis in a relatively unpopulated state in America?!

A state of Zion within the USA.. an interesting idea and it would certainly be well defended..

Gorka was just such an incredibly rude, horrible bully in the interview with Victoria. Perhaps this woman was even worse,

www.facebook.com/share/r/12GhVoZFjid/

I watched her with dismay as well.. I think Victoria Derbyshire is a truly remarkable interviewer.. I love Newsnight..

David49

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Oreo

‘Forfeited all its sympathetic vote’
Ye Gods!
I would say it’s hamas and supporters whose behaviour has been beyond the pale for a number of years.

This is not as I’m sure you know an either/or situation.

So you think it’s OK for Hamas to take hostages and rid Israel of Jews, using Gazas civilians as propaganda human sacrifices.

No

Quote Aveline Fri 14-Feb-25 12:49:09
I read a letter in our local paper with an alternative suggestion for Trump's plan to rebuild Gaza having got rid of all the Palestinians. Why not simply rehouse all the Israelis in a relatively unpopulated state in America?!

Many Jews went to America when Russia wanted them out,then Germany came up with an idea !

AnniebachI suspect they'd be safe enough in America though.

Antisemitism is rising in America, more so in universities,
Jews have never been safe, 1948 a country Al last, then Arab Israeli war , six countries attacked

What has happened recently in Palestine, and is going to happen in near future, will make antisemitism rise as never before. And that is part of the current tragedy.

Because Israel defended itself

Anniebach

Because Israel defended itself

No because Israel is behaving beyond acceptable behaviour, and has done so for decades.

Agree Whitewavemark2

Not true

Whitewavemark2

Anniebach

Because Israel defended itself

No because Israel is behaving beyond acceptable behaviour, and has done so for decades.

I completely agree WW2

I am so sorry Annieb. That is the truth.

I am aware that you don't want to, or can't, see it.

Being attacked by six countries as the world was reeling over the Holocaust, that was acceptable behaviour

Anniebach

Being attacked by six countries as the world was reeling over the Holocaust, that was acceptable behaviour

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Anniebach check how the Israelis were treating Palestinians in Gaza and in the West Bank over the past few years. They were behaving like bullies.