The Guardian reports that Trump says all Palestinians should move out of Gaza

Comparing Haaretz to the Daily Mail is really nonsensical.

But if Israelis don't trust them to tell the truth, maybe they should allow worlwide journalists to report from Gaza, perhaps.

Ref to popular newspapers, the Mail is widely read here but is it truthful ?

? Your post above ?

I doubt the Daily Mail is read in Israel .

So worrying that they read the DM, the paper that supported Hitler and the Nazis. Unimaginable, truly.

Israelis in or out of Israel, are as divided as can be. Many are very critical of Netanyahu's failure to protect Israelis on October 7th despite repeated warnings at the highest level of the military, and the reactions ever since. Many are shocked and disgusted, and ashamed even. Many have huge empathy with the Palestinians. I know you won't believe it Annie, but they do.

Quote growstuff Tue 28-Jan-25 15:23:22
Anniebach
Do tell, how do you know the thoughts of many Israelis
I read the Israeli press and articles by Israeli commentators

Many read the Daily Mail

5 Arab countries declared war on Israel , 1948

Anniebach

Do tell, how do you know the thoughts of many Israelis

I read the Israeli press and articles by Israeli commentators.

Rula

Were any of you distressed for the Jews who were displaced post 1948?

Despite the positive influence that Jews brought to the places where they lived, more than 850,000 Jews were forced to leave their homes in Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Morocco, and several other Arab countries in the 20 years that followed the Arab-Israeli war of 1948

It's never been easy Jewish, anywhere

Yes, of course, but are you aware that similar numbers of Palestinians, in what is now remembered as the Nabka, were forced to leave their homes when Israel was established? Neither is "OK" but part of the troubled history of the area.

Do tell, how do you know the thoughts of many Israelis

Rula

Were any of you distressed for the Jews who were displaced post 1948?

Despite the positive influence that Jews brought to the places where they lived, more than 850,000 Jews were forced to leave their homes in Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Morocco, and several other Arab countries in the 20 years that followed the Arab-Israeli war of 1948

It's never been easy Jewish, anywhere

Well, I wasn't born in 1948, so I couldn't have been distressed at the time. Nevertheless, I agree with you about the displacement after 1948. The state of Israel needed to be created to provide some kind of sanctuary. In a way, that's what puzzles me about the lack of empathy by people like Ben-Givr and Smotrich about the Palestinian need to have their own land.

Wyllow3

Which no one should ever forget, and no one here as far as I can tell has suggested we ever forget.

However, we do have to talk about displacement in the present in order to both understand the situation and find some hope of remedy that does to mean following Trump's suggestion of total displacement - cleansing Gaza of Palestininans.

I am currently troubled by something we rarely mention because we are focussed on Gaza,

But some Israelis have been slowly occupying more and more of the West Bank day by day, week by week, displacing Palestinians, as Gaza has occupied the news. and its backed up by the IDF.

I cant understand why people think this is OK?

It's not OK at all - and I agree with you.

Many Israelis are bothered by it too. Some of them think that Netanyahu thought people would be more worried about what was happening in the West Bank than in Gaza, which is why defences were more concentrated on the West Bank than Gaza, which is how mistakes were made.

Were any of you distressed for the Jews who were displaced post 1948?

Despite the positive influence that Jews brought to the places where they lived, more than 850,000 Jews were forced to leave their homes in Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Morocco, and several other Arab countries in the 20 years that followed the Arab-Israeli war of 1948

It's never been easy Jewish, anywhere

Anniebach

Jews were displaced , gas chambers

Nobody is disputing that (well, not on GN - some loonies do).

correction above "does not mean Trump's suggestion of total displacement"

Which no one should ever forget, and no one here as far as I can tell has suggested we ever forget.

However, we do have to talk about displacement in the present in order to both understand the situation and find some hope of remedy that does to mean following Trump's suggestion of total displacement - cleansing Gaza of Palestininans.

I am currently troubled by something we rarely mention because we are focussed on Gaza,

But some Israelis have been slowly occupying more and more of the West Bank day by day, week by week, displacing Palestinians, as Gaza has occupied the news. and its backed up by the IDF.

I cant understand why people think this is OK?

Jews were displaced , gas chambers

Yes, they do need to sort out differences - that's what conflict resolution is all about, but there's not much sign of that.

mum2three

I think everyone needs to be reminded that the land of Israel was not created in 1948. It has been the homeland of the Jewish people for thousands of years.
Does no-one read the Bible any more? Ever heard of a man called Abraham? He and his tribe were allowed to settle in that country and have been there ever since.
Abraham is supposed to be the ancestor of both Jews and Arabs, therefore the land belongs to both. They really need to sort out their differences and share the land.

It's also been the homeland of Palestinians for hundreds of years - and some of them have property deeds to prove it.

If we're going to go back thousands of years, nearly everybody in the world would be displaced.

I think everyone needs to be reminded that the land of Israel was not created in 1948. It has been the homeland of the Jewish people for thousands of years.
Does no-one read the Bible any more? Ever heard of a man called Abraham? He and his tribe were allowed to settle in that country and have been there ever since.
Abraham is supposed to be the ancestor of both Jews and Arabs, therefore the land belongs to both. They really need to sort out their differences and share the land.

maddyone

It’s because they’re seen as victims Annie, whereas Israelis are not seen as victims.

By whom?

Anniebach

Yes Maddy Hamas has been in control of the many videos we have seen, they present Palestinians as victims mostly children,
interviews with doctors etc

So you think it's all hunkydory in Gaza, do you?

There are victims on both sides.

Yes Maddy Hamas has been in control of the many videos we have seen, they present Palestinians as victims mostly children,
interviews with doctors etc