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What is it with men? Some men, perhaps, but TOO MANY

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RosiesMaw2 Mon 27-Jan-25 23:16:58

Wynne Evans has stepped away from his BBC radio programme after making an “inappropriate and unacceptable” remark towards a Strictly Come Dancing presenter
Evans, the opera singer and star of the Go Compare adverts, was caught on camera appearing to use the term “spit roast” in reference to Janette Manrara, who is hosting the Strictly live tour.
The incident happened during a photocall for the tour in Birmingham, as Ms Manrara stood between Evans and Jamie Borthwick, another Strictly contestant. Borthwick did not take part in the exchange
I am proud to say it would not have occurred to DH or indeed any men in my family to use that sort of language.
D1 and GD (10) went to the Strictly Live show 10 days ago, with friends, also with a 10 year old daughter.
GD loved it but if she had caught any of the interview what on earth could we have said to her?

welbeck Tue 28-Jan-25 16:09:44

Not a term in my lexicon but I can guess what it means.
Don't want to look it up.
I would not say this man was stupid or silly exactly.
That suggests an error due to carelessness or lack of effort.
Which suggests he should cover up what he really thinks more effectively.
Men need to challenge these attitudes whenever they hear them if they don't want to be thought part of the problem.

TerriBull Tue 28-Jan-25 15:45:20

David49

What is said in the locker room is not for repeating in mixed company, however in the bar late at night the language can get quite loose, any women there tolerate it or leave.

Years ago when I did play rugby I had a couple of pints after the match then out for the evening elsewhere

Patronising load of old bollocks, so outmoded in that "not in front of the laydees" sort of way, that men use as an excuse to be as boorish and sexist as they like. There's something about that state of mind that makes me feel, these are men who don't like women.

mrsgreenfingers56 Tue 28-Jan-25 15:40:51

Don't know what it means either. Must have led a sheltered life then.

Witzend Tue 28-Jan-25 15:33:07

I had to look it up, too. 🤮
I’ve never watched Strictly, so didn’t know who the bloke was until someone said he was the ‘opera singer’ from the ads.
I’d always thought he seems like a good sort, too.
Very disillusioning!
As for his ‘mental health’, if he’s gone into a major depression, it’s IMO no more than the pillock deserves.

JamesandJon33 Tue 28-Jan-25 15:29:29

Glad I never met those men David49

ferry23 Tue 28-Jan-25 15:25:49

David49

What is said in the locker room is not for repeating in mixed company, however in the bar late at night the language can get quite loose, any women there tolerate it or leave.

Years ago when I did play rugby I had a couple of pints after the match then out for the evening elsewhere

I can't believe I've just read this.

It's 2025 - and I thought dinosaurs were extinct.

NonGrannyMoll Tue 28-Jan-25 15:24:05

Just to say that my DH is offended by the sentence "What is it with men?" I'd never heard the term "spit roast" before and had to Google it. DH has never heard of it either and was disgusted once he knew the meaning. He has asked me to mention that he is personally affronted every time he is denounced by people effectively accusing him of the worst kind of human behaviour simply because he's a man. On my own account, this is not what I burned my bra for all those years ago. Equality is NOT about women aiming inaccurate and often biased accusations at men. Women's independence has been very hard won, and it's not over yet; nor will it be over until we stop encouraging each other to behave towards men in the very ways that certain men encourage each other to behave towards us. Thanks (on DH's behalf also) for reading this.

RosiesMaw2 Tue 28-Jan-25 15:12:01

What is said in the locker room is not for repeating in mixed company, however in the bar late at night the language can get quite loose, any women there tolerate it or leave

Why should anybody have to tolerate crude, pornographic, misogynistic language or leave
A bar is a public place and just as racist or anti- religious (eg anti-Semitic) language is unacceptable - so is this.

HousePlantQueen Tue 28-Jan-25 15:09:48

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I looked it up on Urban Dictionary when I heard it.

Not a good idea, you would be better off, as we all would, sticking to Book Club choices!

GrannyGravy13 Tue 28-Jan-25 15:05:57

David49

What is said in the locker room is not for repeating in mixed company, however in the bar late at night the language can get quite loose, any women there tolerate it or leave.

Years ago when I did play rugby I had a couple of pints after the match then out for the evening elsewhere

Women shouldn’t have to tolerate it !

It’s just wrong on every level to debase women in public, a few beers after the match is not an excuse!

GrannyGravy13 Tue 28-Jan-25 15:04:32

Not sure if locker room banter is that low.

My lot are usually more concerned about what is going on on the field of play, or how other teams are doing.

Not all sports men objectify women in such a derogatory way, and it’s demeaning to the good ones to insinuate this.

David49 Tue 28-Jan-25 15:02:47

What is said in the locker room is not for repeating in mixed company, however in the bar late at night the language can get quite loose, any women there tolerate it or leave.

Years ago when I did play rugby I had a couple of pints after the match then out for the evening elsewhere

TerriBull Tue 28-Jan-25 15:00:38

"I think it's a popular expression with rugby and football men"

Sorry that so called male camaraderie where women are objectified and disrespected, I just can't stand it, it massively trivialises some of the appalling sexual assaults against women.

RosiesMaw2 Tue 28-Jan-25 14:08:34

I think it's a popular expression with rugby and football men
Which rugby and football men?

To dismiss this as “locker room banter” is no excuse and I am sure many if not all of us will know of rugby or football players who would not use this expression in the privacy of the locker room let alone in public.

Sparklefizz Tue 28-Jan-25 13:56:36

Apparently he has been "repeatedly warned" about his behaviour by the BBC so this is not an isolated incident.

kircubbin2000 Tue 28-Jan-25 13:26:19

I think it's a popular expression with rugby and football men.On Facebook everyone is sticking up for him and saying everyone talks like this and it's only banter!

kircubbin2000 Tue 28-Jan-25 13:23:38

MountainAsh

Never heard of it. I hate all this”woke” nonsense.

Nothing to do with woke this time. Just a very crude creep of a man.

petra Tue 28-Jan-25 13:03:44

I knew the expression but it was so long ago I can’t remember where from.
It might have been the dominatrix I became acquainted with some years ago.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 28-Jan-25 12:45:24

Kate1949

He's been sacked from the Strictly tour after 'repeated warnings'.

Good 👍🏻

What a silly man, maybe he will learn from this, but I wouldn’t put any money on that!

leeds22 Tue 28-Jan-25 12:41:26

I first heard that expression, in relation to some footballers' behaviour. I was with my then 25 year old son and asked him what it meant. His reply was 'you really don't want to know'. And I wish I didn't know now.

Kate1949 Tue 28-Jan-25 12:30:06

He's been sacked from the Strictly tour after 'repeated warnings'.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 28-Jan-25 12:20:11

I looked it up on Urban Dictionary when I heard it.

Boz Tue 28-Jan-25 12:06:56

ferry23

Taking part in Masterchef and then Strictly must have really elevated his public profile. Suddenly people knew he was away from his "Go Compare" persona - I expect in his mind he's now a celebrity and he can play the big man and he expects everyone to think he's funny and worldly wise.

He may think all that but I now think he's just a sleazebag.

Precisely. These inadequate little men are elevated to a degree that they think they can say anything for a laugh.
I wonder who will trill us to Go Compare now. I suggest a nice little dog; elevate the ad..

ferry23 Tue 28-Jan-25 11:32:14

Taking part in Masterchef and then Strictly must have really elevated his public profile. Suddenly people knew he was away from his "Go Compare" persona - I expect in his mind he's now a celebrity and he can play the big man and he expects everyone to think he's funny and worldly wise.

He may think all that but I now think he's just a sleazebag.

Dickens Tue 28-Jan-25 11:14:07

MountainAsh

Never heard of it. I hate all this”woke” nonsense.

I'm not convinced you understand the meaning of the word "woke".

Are you saying the phrase you've never heard of is woke - or the reaction to its usage?

If the latter, I suggest you look up its meaning and see how you'd feel if your daughter or grand daughter was referred to in such a way.