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Johnnie Reynolds Labour MP praised Margaret Thatchers Government live on breakfast news this morning.

(62 Posts)
GrannyGravy13 Wed 29-Jan-25 08:56:09

For those who doubt it was on GMB around 8am.

I was gob smacked to say the least…

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 29-Jan-25 10:58:00

She’s still droning on. I had to mute her. 55 minutes. I think she’s coming over as desperate. Rachel Reeves claims to be good at chess. Most chess players understand that knowing your openings and how to develop them is vital.

Well she played the Chancellors Gambit last summer, lost vital pieces and all momentum. I think she’s toast now. The tax hikes haven’t even come into operation yet (start April). It’s going to be a very bumpy ride.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 29-Jan-25 10:53:14

My opinion about Thatcher is that whilst I abhorred most of her policies I did admire her strength of character and single mindedness when following through her aims.

She was a clear minded thinker and ruthless. Her ruthlessness was what lead both to her rise and fall.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 29-Jan-25 10:50:52

Whitewavemark2 👍🏻

Whitewavemark2 Wed 29-Jan-25 10:48:43

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

I think that the OP is getting a tad over excited😄

Not at all.

Just posting what a Labour MP said on a news programme- News & Politics?

I was teasing - not being serious!

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 29-Jan-25 10:42:50

45 minutes in.
The audience is very quiet. No polite clapping at all.
Maybe they are snoozing?

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 29-Jan-25 10:31:50

I think she’s had the memo ‘stop talking down the UK’.
‘Boosterism’ is now the message delivery.
Smiley faces from hereon in from Labour. 😁

GrannyGravy13 Wed 29-Jan-25 10:30:31

I am posting/reading (?) without my glasses, apologies for any typos.

Rula Wed 29-Jan-25 10:28:51

More coal mines were closed under Labour, post WWII

Indigo8 Wed 29-Jan-25 10:27:17

I personally have mixed feelings about Mrs T.

She was the first woman prime minister so she lead the way and showed it could be done. She proved to be stronger and more decisive that most of her male predecessors.

She took us into war in the Falklands, she sold off loads of council houses, mishandled the miners' strike, smashed all the unions and destroyed labour relations.

I admit that some unions were wielding too much power and needed to be curbed but they also played an essential part in
ensuring good employment practices. Selling off council houses meant that the private rental market became overheated and the mess we are in today over housing is largely owing to Mrs T's policies.

henetha Wed 29-Jan-25 10:26:57

"I think it is a good thing if opposing politicians can comment favourably on others. Sadly it's a skill lacking in many these days." as Grandmabatty said.
And it doesn't hurt to remember that political parties, although in opposition, are all part of one country. Maybe a bit more cooperation sometimes would be better for our country.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 29-Jan-25 10:26:19

Why Oxford and Cambridge for our AI corridor GG13? I thought Doncaster was the place, already operational.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 29-Jan-25 10:26:05

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Anyone listening to Rachel Reeves’ ‘Plan for Growth’ speech right now? She’s been talking for 25 minutes so far.

I am waiting in the opticians, will catch up with it later…

Rula Wed 29-Jan-25 10:25:44

Whitewavemark2

I think that the OP is getting a tad over excited😄

I don't.

I saw the interview as well. I thought Richard Madeley and Susannah were about to pass out.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 29-Jan-25 10:25:23

Whitewavemark2

I think that the OP is getting a tad over excited😄

Not at all.

Just posting what a Labour MP said on a news programme- News & Politics?

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 29-Jan-25 10:25:01

Anyone listening to Rachel Reeves’ ‘Plan for Growth’ speech right now? She’s been talking for 25 minutes so far.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 29-Jan-25 10:24:03

I am interested to hear what RR has to say about creating a silicone valley between Oxford and Cambridge.

As I understand it we have an established one by the M4 corridor.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 29-Jan-25 10:22:38

I think that the OP is getting a tad over excited😄

ronib Wed 29-Jan-25 10:20:18

The tractors are out in force today for Rachel in Oxford. Must be nice to have a welcoming committee every where she goes from now on. Time/cue for … this lady’s not for turning speech? Honk honk ….

Oreo Wed 29-Jan-25 10:19:10

Interesting 🧐
Why move all of them I wonder.

Wyllow3 Wed 29-Jan-25 10:16:43

Oreo

Grandmabatty

Kier Starmer did move a portrait of Thatcher because it was part of a planned reorganisation started by the conservatives when in power. Irrelevant to this point really.
I think it is a good thing if opposing politicians can comment favourably on others. Sadly it's a skill lacking in many these days.

A planned reorganisation of paintings?
Pull the other one😂
If Starmer didn’t like the portrait frowning down on him that was his decision to move it, pure and simple.

Starmer removed all political portraits - this is an old one - he has chosen instead other sorts of paintings including on loan pictures from National Gallery

Ilovecheese Wed 29-Jan-25 10:14:30

If he had really admired Thatcher, I would not have been surprised in the least.

Wyllow3 Wed 29-Jan-25 10:14:27

I don't understand the full debate on the runway GG3 because it's been controversial for years.

Discussion
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdjdz92v84do#:~:text=The%20expansion%20of%20Heathrow%20has,were%20first%20discussed%20decades%20ago.

Various arguments have been - necessary for economy growth - stops planes circling waiting for landing - new aeroplanes are greener - but still will have impact - local concerns

Oreo Wed 29-Jan-25 10:12:50

At least Thatcher had clear goals and a vision and principles and stuck by them, which is why many admired her even if they disagreed politically.

Oreo Wed 29-Jan-25 10:11:00

Grandmabatty

Kier Starmer did move a portrait of Thatcher because it was part of a planned reorganisation started by the conservatives when in power. Irrelevant to this point really.
I think it is a good thing if opposing politicians can comment favourably on others. Sadly it's a skill lacking in many these days.

A planned reorganisation of paintings?
Pull the other one😂
If Starmer didn’t like the portrait frowning down on him that was his decision to move it, pure and simple.

Cossy Wed 29-Jan-25 10:08:18

GrannyGravy13

I haven’t had a chance to read the papers Visgirl , looks like Labour have seen the light and realised it’s blue

Hahaha That made me smile 😜