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Whitewavemark2 Wed 29-Jan-25 11:54:37

I would highly recommend todays “The Rest is Politics” 29/01/25. Podcast

Warning it is grim and chilling

Wyllow3 Wed 29-Jan-25 12:07:06

Is there a relevant written summary, WWM2? so many things are happening it would be good to have an overview.

On GN we inevitably get bits and pieces - on ICE raids, on Womens health, current complicated information on sacking federal employees, health care cuts, its hard to get a grasp.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 29-Jan-25 12:59:47

I’ll have a look - not sure where though?

They started off by looking at the attached and then looked at Trumps policies and behaviour.

It covers his domestic and foreign policy.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 29-Jan-25 13:07:24

Today my iPad won’t post “Attached” for some reason.

It was a list that the Holocaust museum has up on its wall in NY I think it was.

It is a list of the indicators of fascism
.

People can protest all they like but I think it is pretty clear what Trump is about.

Chocolatelovinggran Wed 29-Jan-25 14:54:09

WWM I agree. Wasn't it Maya Angelou who said " If someone tells you what they are, believe them"?
His plans are not hidden.

AGAA4 Wed 29-Jan-25 14:57:27

If you Google Washington monthly it mentions Trump and the signs of fascism. It is worrying.
Sorry can't do the link.

Wyllow3 Wed 29-Jan-25 15:05:51

Its an old link but relevant
washingtonmonthly.com/2017/01/31/the-12-early-warning-signs-of-fascism/

List:
EARLY WARNING SIGNS OF FASCISM

Powerful and continuing nationalism
Disdain for human rights
Identification of enemies as a unifying cause
Rampant sexism
Controlled mass media
Obsession with national security
Religion and government intertwined
Corporate power protected
Labor power suppressed
Disdain for intellectual and the arts
Obsession with crime and punishment
Rampant cronyism and corruption

ayse Wed 29-Jan-25 15:10:10

I’ve just had a letter from a distant cousin who lives in Georgia. Two of his family are already affected by Trump’s actions. One female currently works for the Environmental Protection Agency. She was going to be moving to the military but Trump has frozen all federal jobs. He’s told everyone to resign and re-apply. My cousin suggests they will only take back Trump supporters.

The commander of chief of federal forces has ordered these forces to go to the Mexican border even though this is illegal.

The Trump government certainly seems to be going down the fascist route. Demanding Greenland from Denmark, telling Canada to become the next state of the USA, threatening its main trading partners with tariff rises (Mexico and Canada) plus the EU plus much more.

It’s frightening

Wyllow3 Wed 29-Jan-25 15:17:17

Here's a contemporary Washington Monthly article
washingtonmonthly.com/2025/01/24/trumps-executive-orders-making-america-hate-again/

Trump’s Executive Orders—Making America Hate Again

petra Wed 29-Jan-25 15:24:22

Is this the one?

www.google.com/search?q=podcast+%2B+the+rest+is+polotics&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:032bc57d,vid:U0fdoOxkN4o,st:0

Wyllow3 Wed 29-Jan-25 15:25:32

There are full lists of presidential signings but no details an interpreter/digest is required!
www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/

AGAA4 Wed 29-Jan-25 15:35:56

Thank you Wyllow for sending the link.

Rula Wed 29-Jan-25 15:37:28

The Western world is embracing Trump. The leaders are falling over themselves to suck up to him

He won. And that's all there is to it

It's

Nonnato2 Wed 29-Jan-25 15:40:07

He won. Get over it.

keepingquiet Wed 29-Jan-25 15:41:45

I'm not sure even Trump knows what he's doing.

I know what his minions are doing though- they're all on the make...

Wyllow3 Wed 29-Jan-25 15:43:32

Trump’s federal grant pause creates confusion over Medicaid funding
edition.cnn.com/2025/01/28/politics/trumps-federal-grant-pause-confusion-medicaid-funding/index.html

So he did, Rula
I hope to see opposition in any way possible....

" The leaders are falling over themselves to suck up to him"

Really? where?

Wyllow3 Wed 29-Jan-25 15:44:40

keepingquiet

I'm not sure even Trump knows what he's doing.

I know what his minions are doing though- they're all on the make...

Too much, too fast, many ill considered as to consequences.

Rula Wed 29-Jan-25 15:57:14

Do some research. There's plenty of evidence,Wyllow3

Casdon Wed 29-Jan-25 16:10:52

Rula

Do some research. There's plenty of evidence,*Wyllow3*

There is no evidence that he is being embraced by any of the European leaders except far right ones Rula. Nobody else is, or will ‘fall over themselves’ to embrace a regime which is against their principles and interests. They will maintain a civil working relationship of course, because that is mutually beneficial in negotiations.

MayBee70 Wed 29-Jan-25 16:39:34

What he’s doing appears to be illegal. Not that it will bother him or his followers.

Indigo8 Wed 29-Jan-25 16:52:37

Nonnato2

He won. Get over it.

If only it were that simple.

We have man who scored 90% in a psychopathy test who holds one of the most powerful and influential positions as world leader.

He has already demonstrated that he is a narcissist and quite seriously deranged and out of control.

Be afraid, be very afraid.

Nonnato2 Wed 29-Jan-25 17:00:39

Indigo8

Nonnato2
He won. Get over it.
If only it were that simple.

We have man who scored 90% in a psychopathy test who holds one of the most powerful and influential positions as world leader.

He has already demonstrated that he is a narcissist and quite seriously deranged and out of control.

Be afraid, be very afraid.

No I’m not afraid of Trump. I’m more afraid of Starmer and his cronies.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 29-Jan-25 17:11:03

His domestic programme is frightening, but his foreign policies if he carries his threats through are terrifying.

imaround Wed 29-Jan-25 17:32:02

Nonnato2

He won. Get over it.

I will never get over my rights being stripped away.

I hope you find some empathy.

Cossy Wed 29-Jan-25 17:35:55

Nonnato2

He won. Get over it.

Sorry, that remark is both rude and so ignorant.

Aside from that many of us, me included, have close family and friends living in the USA and we are rightfully concerned.

Trump is a loose canon and a dictator, not what anyone needs running one of world’s most powerful nations.

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