Where is the celebration?

FriedGreenTomatoes2

No I won’t. I’m sick of going over all this old ground with you (Claremont now).

Our governments have actively worked against our interests for years. Brexit was a cry from the people for change, but of course the elites wouldn’t let us and so we remain bound to a raft of pointless EU regulation - just to make sure the plebs are battered in to submission and beg to return.

Well it won’t work and we can see straight through them. We need our Trump moment in the UK. Britain needs Reform to enact Brexit.

You’re assuming that ‘our interests’ applies to us all, implying ours are the same as yours, which for many of us isn’t the case. We have very different visions for the future.

Well there you go- not prepared to back up your ludicrous statement about the half bakes cake nonsense!

The borders and checks were not implemented because we were not prepared at all, and we would have had such massive shortages, and such humongous increase in prices- be it for medicines, chemicals for water purification, parts for our little remaining industry, food and essential goods- the list is endless.

Outraged about being asked for evidence- because you have none.

Go on, just tell us how Brexit should be enacted. With vast shortages of labour, shortages on shelves,, and massive costs.

You won't tell us, because you have not goa a clue, just mantras à la Farage.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

No I won’t. I’m sick of going over all this old ground with you (Claremont now).

Our governments have actively worked against our interests for years. Brexit was a cry from the people for change, but of course the elites wouldn’t let us and so we remain bound to a raft of pointless EU regulation - just to make sure the plebs are battered in to submission and beg to return.

Well it won’t work and we can see straight through them. We need our Trump moment in the UK. Britain needs Reform to enact Brexit.

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No I won’t. I’m sick of going over all this old ground with you (Claremont now).

Our governments have actively worked against our interests for years. Brexit was a cry from the people for change, but of course the elites wouldn’t let us and so we remain bound to a raft of pointless EU regulation - just to make sure the plebs are battered in to submission and beg to return.

Well it won’t work and we can see straight through them. We need our Trump moment in the UK. Britain needs Reform to enact Brexit.

It certainly seems a waste of time mentioning Brexit, especially to those who have 'moved on.'

Maybe other things also need to be moved on, like banging on about the WFA, public enquiries, immigration generally and especially let's move on from thinking Farage is anything other than a self-serving media seeker who is doing nothing for the people of Clacton- maybe they also need to 'move on' too?

Five years after we left the EU, a damning poll shows up one crazy Brexit prediction

Rupert Lowe’s 2020 claim that "Remainers will disappear" now looks farcical as only 30% say we were right to leave

A large number have died, just simple demographics. Others have realised they have been lied to massively, on so many fronts. Young people could could have voted but didn't, now realise it was a huge mistake they won't make again. And other young people have now reached voting age, and realise how much their opportunities have been narrowed.

Democracy means that when you make a huge mistake, you are right to look at it again and have a new say on the actual facts. That is how democracy works, and why we elect Governments on a regular basis- on results.

FGT2- talk about old chestnuts, yet again.

They were not implemented because if would have been even more of a disaster and so vastly costly to implement. We could have closed the border for incoming goods from EU, or imposed very strict controls- you do realise why this was not done, don't you.

Give us a viable list of things that could have been done, which were not implemented?

On 31st January there were so many auspicious events throughout history, many now forgotten but so important at the time.

This will just be another one listed in the history books.

Watch (and listen) to the questions being asked in Parliament by Rupert Lowe (Reform). He is exposing poor civil service mandarins and lazy MPs.

Well I’m in the Alan Sugar camp. It is the biggest disaster. I will never forgive nor forget those folk who dragged us out! Tell me one benefit to “celebrate”.

Brexit is a half-cooked cake and anyone can see that it was the Tories who turned the oven off too soon.

We need a leader who has the courage to get to grips with the many ills currently besetting our nation, a leader who will execute Brexit as it should have been and who will not be cowed by the task.

The only politician who can achieve this and the only one who cares enough is Nigel Farage. Anyone else on offer are just lame ducks.

I am not a ranter fancythat. I’m bothered about lack of evidence (whatever the subject) when people do rant, because I always look for the evidence, I’d say I’m most likely to get on some people’s nerves for that reason on here.

BlueBelle

Brexit was a total disaster and will continue to be
Totally wrong how it was handled from start to finish and those voting for it are not now accepting that many more now realise the disaster it is
We have split from Europe and now have a ‘best friend’ who is a dangerous idiot instead 😢

And with whom any ounce of Sovereignty, which was the main reason so many voted for Brexit - will be gone. There will be NO elected British politicians at Trump's table- and NO part in decision making, be it about tarifs, or Security in a very dangerous world.

How do you just 'move on' from that. We will have NO free trade with the EU, and none with Trump's USA. Just tiny irrelevant pawns in Trump's game. Some here still think we 'rule the waves' - we just don't.

I didn’t vote for it. I was shocked, really distressed, by the result but I don’t think about it now. It’s done and life carries on. Despite having voted to remain, I wouldn’t now vote to rejoin. Times have changed.

If your answer is yes, I will treat such talk in the future as being a rant.
I personally ignore rants.
They are largely self indulgence.

If the answer is no, then I pity people who do so.

Casdon

Blame is a waste of effort, but it’s unreasonable to expect people to ignore the consequences, when they affect us all. It’s going to go down in the history books as one of the key events of the century, so it’s going to be talked about for the whole of our lifetimes and beyond.
So no, people are not going to stop talking about it, and they aren’t going to care at all if it upsets people who don’t want to do so.

Out of interest, do you enjoy talking about it?

Cossy

NonGrannyMoll

I too am sick of the whingeing about Brexit. I didn't vote for it, always thought it was a retrograde step, and - lo! - it came to pass. But it's done now and nothing ever got improved by wishing we hadn't done it. Better to try rebuilding on what we have than whinge about what we haven't, surely?

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By the same token then, no whinging about the government is allowed from now on. It’s done now, and nothing ever got improved by wishing we hadn’t done it, as you say. Shall we strike a deal?

NonGrannyMoll

I too am sick of the whingeing about Brexit. I didn't vote for it, always thought it was a retrograde step, and - lo! - it came to pass. But it's done now and nothing ever got improved by wishing we hadn't done it. Better to try rebuilding on what we have than whinge about what we haven't, surely?

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Blame is a waste of effort, but it’s unreasonable to expect people to ignore the consequences, when they affect us all. It’s going to go down in the history books as one of the key events of the century, so it’s going to be talked about for the whole of our lifetimes and beyond.
So no, people are not going to stop talking about it, and they aren’t going to care at all if it upsets people who don’t want to do so.

BlueBelle

Brexit was a total disaster and will continue to be
Totally wrong how it was handled from start to finish and those voting for it are not now accepting that many more now realise the disaster it is
We have split from Europe and now have a ‘best friend’ who is a dangerous idiot instead 😢

This.

nongrannymoll
You put my thoughts into words, thank you.

I was surprised to find myself listening to a 30 year old man bemoaning Brexit the other day; not just people on GN who blame it for everything it seems.

I too am sick of the whingeing about Brexit. I didn't vote for it, always thought it was a retrograde step, and - lo! - it came to pass. But it's done now and nothing ever got improved by wishing we hadn't done it. Better to try rebuilding on what we have than whinge about what we haven't, surely?

Oreo

This does sound like another goady thread ☹️
Who knew it was 5 years today ! Plus it isn’t a special event day like Valentines or Mothers Day in any case.
I didn’t vote for it but am sick to death of the whining that still goes on.

This is me too.

Nothing to celebrate sadly. Brexit was never embraced. Opportunities not embraced. EU regulations still adhered to when many could’ve been ditched.

Hey ho. I used to be disappointed by the cavalier attitude of the Remainer cohort in the HoC (anyone remember all those bluddy ‘indicative votes’?). but my life has changed this past 2 years and I’ve got bigger fish to fry.

I can honestly say the only time I give leaving the EU a thought is when I see a thread on GN.

The remain camp has to take some responsibility, as they failed to read the room and therefore didn’t put forward their side as robustly as the leave camp.