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Still told to 'get over it, it's done.

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Claremont Sun 02-Feb-25 20:05:54

And yet only 11 - yes, ELEVEN percent, believe it was a success. And only 24% of Reform. That is just staggering, but not surprising.

Why on earth should we 'get over it'?

Babs03 Sun 02-Feb-25 20:10:24

I assume we are talking about Brexit?
Or is it the election of Trump?
Either one is a staggeringly massive mistake, luckily Trump will only last 4 years, but Brexit is the gift that will keep on giving.

MissAdventure Sun 02-Feb-25 20:20:21

I think, because not "getting over it" will impact on nobody but yourself.

You won't persuade others, nor change anything.

RosieandherMaw Sun 02-Feb-25 20:21:54

Because bleating about it is neither constructive nor helpful?

MissAdventure Sun 02-Feb-25 20:22:35

That's another way of putting it. smile

Oreo Sun 02-Feb-25 20:24:58

What RosieandherMaw and MissAdventure say 😄

Galaxy Sun 02-Feb-25 20:30:11

What other action do you propose?

AGAA4 Sun 02-Feb-25 20:30:26

We don't have to get over it but we do have to get on with it. No choice is there. I rarely think about it now.

Rula Sun 02-Feb-25 20:36:51

Not getting over it isn't good for your mental health.

Doodledog Sun 02-Feb-25 20:39:45

What does ‘getting over it’ mean, please?

I don’t like the way discussions these days are centred on cliches and popular phrases that are essentially meaningless.

Churchview Sun 02-Feb-25 20:45:45

I assume by 'getting over it' people mean acceptance of a situation. Acceptance doesn't mean the end of debate though and not all debate is 'bleating'.

MissAdventure Sun 02-Feb-25 20:46:40

Well, you'll just have to "suck it up", Doodledog 😉

RosieandherMaw Sun 02-Feb-25 20:48:59

Churchview

I assume by 'getting over it' people mean acceptance of a situation. Acceptance doesn't mean the end of debate though and not all debate is 'bleating'.

Nor need "debate" degenerate into bleating.
One stops listening after endless repetition.

theworriedwell Sun 02-Feb-25 21:00:58

Well we voted yes back in the 70s and people pushed to come out. They didn't get over it did they.

winterwhite Sun 02-Feb-25 21:05:43

I think “getting over it” is a meaningless concept with regard to Brexit. As if we had any choice.
Boris Johnson and the Brexiteers made this bed of nails but the rest of us also have to lie on it. No reason at all why we shouldn’t remind them of their folly.

JaneJudge Sun 02-Feb-25 21:08:34

I don’t know what is going on

M0nica Sun 02-Feb-25 21:19:05

What has happened has happened. The EU is not an organisation where you 'put one foot in, you take one foot out, you put one foot in and shake it all about'

We had a referendum and like it or not ( and I don't like it) the result was that we came out of the EU. Wasting time and effort now bemoaning the fact and whinging left right and centre will get us not just nowhere, but up a creek without a paddle.

What we need to do now is work to get good relations with the EU and work out treaties and agreements that mean we have as goo an entry into EU markets as is possible, as, of course. we will be doing with other countries.

However I think priority should be given to regularising our relationship with the EU. They are our nearest and one of our biggest markets. In addition the change of President in the US has majorly changed our relationship with that country.

It is clear that the negotiation tactics of the Trump adminstration consist of saying to their 'partners 'do everything my way or I will hit you on the head with a big stick and kick you up the bum.'

Existing treaties are not worth the paper they are written on. For the foreseable future I can see no way that we can sensible negotiaate with the US on anything. This makes our links with the EU even more important to us, for every reason from trade, to being associated with a larger international organisation when Trump starts waving his big stick.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 02-Feb-25 21:22:21

And…

MaizieD Sun 02-Feb-25 22:08:55

Existing treaties are not worth the paper they are written on. For the foreseable future I can see no way that we can sensible negotiaate with the US on anything. This makes our links with the EU even more important to us, for every reason from trade, to being associated with a larger international organisation when Trump starts waving his big stick.

A situation which makes it even more frustrating and inexplicable when the Labour leadership resolutely rejects any proposition from the EU which would bring the UK closer.

I do so wish that they would do at least one thing that would be mildly popular with most voters instead of shutting their eyes and ears in defiance of favourable opinion…

nanna8 Sun 02-Feb-25 22:19:07

The gift that keeps on giving. Nigel Farage must be over the moon and getting ready to form the next government and who can blame him?

Allira Sun 02-Feb-25 22:56:41

Doodledog

What does ‘getting over it’ mean, please?

I don’t like the way discussions these days are centred on cliches and popular phrases that are essentially meaningless.

Sorry, Doodledog, I was just about to use another cliché when I saw your post.
Oh, I'm going to post it anyway.

As my DC say "Build a bridge and get over it"

A situation which makes it even more frustrating and inexplicable when the Labour leadership resolutely rejects any proposition from the EU which would bring the UK closer.

I do so wish that they would do at least one thing that would be mildly popular with most voters instead of shutting their eyes and ears in defiance of favourable opinion…

The Government could start by building a bridge (metaphorically speaking) and meeting them halfway.

maddyone Sun 02-Feb-25 23:46:59

RosieandherMaw

Because bleating about it is neither constructive nor helpful?

Quite!

henetha Sun 02-Feb-25 23:52:57

Well, to use another cliché, it's time we moved on....

MaizieD Sun 02-Feb-25 23:54:45

henetha

Well, to use another cliché, it's time we moved on....

Nobody is stopping you. You’re free to move as far as you like.

Just stop telling other people what to do.

Rula Sun 02-Feb-25 23:57:06

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can,
and the wisdom to know the difference.