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Still told to 'get over it, it's done.

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Claremont Sun 02-Feb-25 20:05:54

And yet only 11 - yes, ELEVEN percent, believe it was a success. And only 24% of Reform. That is just staggering, but not surprising.

Why on earth should we 'get over it'?

Allira Mon 10-Feb-25 22:32:48

Claremont

Barleyfields

Are you calling the Union flag a laughing stock? Shame on you.

No, the people who wave it in the name of Brexit, or the far right who have tragically highjacked it.

No, no-one has hijacked it.
It is still our Union Flag and we shall wave it if we wish. 🇬🇧

Are the arguments still rumbling on where you live, Claremont, or are people happy with the links you have at present with the EU? Would you rather the government had not terminated talks with the EU about membership as they did in 2021?

I hope our Government can work towards closer links with the EU and it would be interesting to hear how this works in other countries.
What might the sticking points be and what would keep both sides happy?

Claremont Mon 10-Feb-25 22:08:13

Barleyfields

Are you calling the Union flag a laughing stock? Shame on you.

No, the people who wave it in the name of Brexit, or the far right who have tragically highjacked it.

Barleyfields Mon 10-Feb-25 21:18:52

Well I wasn’t one of them. I voted to Remain.

MayBee70 Mon 10-Feb-25 21:17:23

Barleyfields

Are you calling the Union flag a laughing stock? Shame on you.

Shame on the people that believed in the lies peddled by Cummings, Farage, toss of a coin leaver Boris Johnson (remember the shell shocked look on the faces of Johnson and Gove when they realised they’d won) Bannon et al? Cheaper energy, cheaper food, no more immigration, Turkey joining the EU; EU Army etc etc.

Barleyfields Mon 10-Feb-25 21:10:44

Are you calling the Union flag a laughing stock? Shame on you.

Claremont Mon 10-Feb-25 20:59:11

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I’d vote for Brexit again. 🇬🇧

This is one of the most bizarre thing I've read on GN. Since there has not been a SINGLE benefit so far, and all the promises were lies. It has made us all poorer, ruined our industries, businesses small and large destroyed farming and fisheries, affected all sectors of the NHS, and the list goes on.

Thank goodness, most people have now realised it was a Farage mirage, based on fraud and lies. 11% still think it was more positive than negative, somehow- but I imagine those who would vote for it again is probably much smaller.

But you enjoy that blue passport hey, made in France on Polish paper, or something!

Estimate is that the UK would currently be 27 billion better off had it not happened.

Wave that flag- sadly become a laughing stock in the rest of the world.

Churchview Mon 10-Feb-25 20:24:01

My wise aunt was a policewoman during the second world war and lived long enough to see Brexit 'done'.

She voted Remain. She worried that the union helped ensure peace in Europe and also provided some checks and balances on the worst excesses of any leaders/countries with nefarious intentions.

Given what we're seeing Trump get up to and, if looking at Farages allies and intentions I often think of my dear old aunt.

Madmeg Mon 10-Feb-25 17:11:12

There are some battles not worth fighting but it's not in my nature to give up on something I wholeheartedly believe in - and have all my life. I will continue fighting for Europe in whatever way I can. My rollator is at the ready for the next march! There is no way that our country has been "great" for a very long time, and it's going even faster downhill.

Farage is a nightmare I hope I never see.

Oldbat1 Mon 10-Feb-25 17:08:49

Brexit continues to prove to be a disaster. I still cannot find ONE benefit.

Casdon Mon 10-Feb-25 17:08:12

BevSec

Casdon

BevSec

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I’d vote for Brexit again. 🇬🇧

Me too, I feel even more certain now that it was the right way to vote.

Each to their own. The polls suggest that you would be in an increasingly minority group now though. In the light of that, you’re going to be swallowing compromises you don’t want to happen, as we seek to improve our relationships with Europe.

Yes, although I have read that the Government has no appetite for rejoining, I believe Peter Mandleson has confirmed this.

I think what they will do is reintroduce EU standards into the UK to enable trading between the UK and the EU, and become more aligned again. Rejoining is not on the cards in the current government term.

BevSec Mon 10-Feb-25 17:02:16

Casdon

BevSec

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I’d vote for Brexit again. 🇬🇧

Me too, I feel even more certain now that it was the right way to vote.

Each to their own. The polls suggest that you would be in an increasingly minority group now though. In the light of that, you’re going to be swallowing compromises you don’t want to happen, as we seek to improve our relationships with Europe.

Yes, although I have read that the Government has no appetite for rejoining, I believe Peter Mandleson has confirmed this.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 10-Feb-25 16:58:10

Of course Casdon. Starmer wants closer ties. It was bound to happen with him. I’m a pragmatist.

Casdon Mon 10-Feb-25 16:37:41

BevSec

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I’d vote for Brexit again. 🇬🇧

Me too, I feel even more certain now that it was the right way to vote.

Each to their own. The polls suggest that you would be in an increasingly minority group now though. In the light of that, you’re going to be swallowing compromises you don’t want to happen, as we seek to improve our relationships with Europe.

BevSec Mon 10-Feb-25 16:23:39

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I’d vote for Brexit again. 🇬🇧

Me too, I feel even more certain now that it was the right way to vote.

RosieandherMaw Mon 10-Feb-25 15:35:12

Forgetting or ignoring the past means you make the same mistakes over and over again

But learning from those mistakes is what matters .

pascal30 Mon 10-Feb-25 15:33:59

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I’d vote for Brexit again. 🇬🇧

I most certainly wouldn't.. it's been a disaster

Churchview Mon 10-Feb-25 15:24:53

QED

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 10-Feb-25 15:19:10

I’d vote for Brexit again. 🇬🇧

Churchview Mon 10-Feb-25 15:18:01

"Dwelling on the past stops living in the present."

Forgetting or ignoring the past means you make the same mistakes over and over again.

MayBee70 Mon 10-Feb-25 15:10:22

Norah

Claremont

And yet only 11 - yes, ELEVEN percent, believe it was a success. And only 24% of Reform. That is just staggering, but not surprising.

Why on earth should we 'get over it'?

Dwelling on the past stops living in the present.

Many people campaigned to leave the EU for decades.

Barleyfields Mon 10-Feb-25 14:56:32

True. And maybe the rest of us would prefer to be left in peace without these anti-Brexit rants.

Norah Mon 10-Feb-25 14:55:09

Claremont

And yet only 11 - yes, ELEVEN percent, believe it was a success. And only 24% of Reform. That is just staggering, but not surprising.

Why on earth should we 'get over it'?

Dwelling on the past stops living in the present.

David49 Mon 10-Feb-25 13:43:08

“Even the most devout Brexiters are now reluctantly mumbling, “Well, it’s not quite what we expected…” before quickly pivoting to the classic excuse: “We just didn’t do it properly.””

Only a fool would believe that, we were never going to have any control, you don’t have an acrimonious break up then expect special treatment. It’s their way or the highway.

MayBee70 Mon 10-Feb-25 13:29:31

“Leaving the EU was a disaster for this country. The Brexiters, when you talk to them, they accept it hasn't gone well, then they say we didn't do it the right way."
— Greg Dyke, former Director-General of the BBC
Ah yes, Brexit—the political equivalent of setting your house on fire and then blaming the fire brigade for using the wrong hose. Greg Dyke hits the nail on the head here. Even the most devout Brexiters are now reluctantly mumbling, “Well, it’s not quite what we expected…” before quickly pivoting to the classic excuse: “We just didn’t do it properly.”
This is the same logic as saying a parachute jump was a great idea, except for the tiny detail that you forgot the parachute.
Of course, the real problem isn’t that Brexit was done incorrectly. It’s that Brexit was sold on a fantasy—one where we’d be swimming in NHS money, the economy would boom, and we’d all have sovereignty for breakfast. Instead, we got supply chain chaos, worker shortages, and a government that treats every crisis like a surprise party they weren’t invited to.
At this point, the only thing Brexiters are “taking back control” of is their ability to pretend this was all part of some grand master plan. Maybe, just maybe, it's time to admit that the "right way" to do Brexit... was not to do it at all.”

MayBee70 Sun 09-Feb-25 22:06:22

A lot of bands and musicians in the latter part of their careers used to tour Europe where they were still popular. Along with their roadies and sound people. We pointed out that leaving the EU would cause major problems but it was labelled(amongst many other things that were proved to be correct) project fear. I’d like to think that the people that ridicule some of us for still regretting the result of the vote, will have the decency to at least admit that the problems we foresaw have actually come to fruition.