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Still told to 'get over it, it's done.

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Claremont Sun 02-Feb-25 20:05:54

And yet only 11 - yes, ELEVEN percent, believe it was a success. And only 24% of Reform. That is just staggering, but not surprising.

Why on earth should we 'get over it'?

Claremont Mon 03-Feb-25 15:12:05

Oreo

I wonder what the ages of those taking part in the poll? If 18 to 25 then they were too young to vote at the time.

Your point being? One more reason for giving them the democratic right to say so and want to do something about it, no? After all, they are the ones who are truly paying the price now, for a decision made by a small minority, mainly of their grand-parents generation. My grandchildren are always telling me how proud they are that we didn't.

MayBee70 Mon 03-Feb-25 14:57:06

Article in yesterday’s Times about how Brexit is affecting smaller companies that used to rely on exports to the EU. But hey ho, why should we care about the ongoing problems that Brexit is causing if it doesn’t affect us personally #theelephantintheroom I may actually rejoin the LibDems because they’re the only party with the guts to tell it like it is and aren’t pandering to Reform. Until Trump was re elected I had decided to move on from the referendum but I now feel as strongly as ever that we have to be part of a large trading bloc.

MayBee70 Mon 03-Feb-25 14:52:13

www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/exporting-cheese-after-brexit-xrzh2pfdj

Allira Mon 03-Feb-25 13:24:12

Thanks Casdon
I was going to look but have been trying to catch up with the news of floods in N Queensland.

Casdon Mon 03-Feb-25 13:13:25

No, fewer than one in ten respondents was aged 24 or under.
yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51500-few-britons-think-brexit-has-been-good-for-anything
(Age breakdown is in the full survey)

Oreo Mon 03-Feb-25 13:10:54

I wonder what the ages of those taking part in the poll? If 18 to 25 then they were too young to vote at the time.

Allira Mon 03-Feb-25 13:08:16

escaped

I think 2225 people were asked.

How were those 2,225 people selected?

Randomly or because they had shown previous interest in other polls to do with membership of the EU?

Barleyfields YouGov is a reputable firm but does reward pollsters.
The 11% headline on FB is not the whole story by any means. It's attention-grabbing.
The whole sentence was:
55% of Britons now say it was wrong for the UK to leave the EU, with just 11% seeing Brexit as more of a success than a failure

The person posting that could equally have written:
55% of Britons now say it was wrong for the UK to leave the EU
Which seems realistic and absolutely believable.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 03-Feb-25 13:05:39

If 55% now say Brexit was wrong

Does than imply 45% do not.

I get only 11% saying it is a success, as there are many things that haven’t happened yet.

Barleyfields Mon 03-Feb-25 13:05:23

Well said, Rosie. The dignified words of people who had far more to complain about than Brexit put the Brexit moaners to shame.

escaped Mon 03-Feb-25 13:04:43

RosieandherMaw

Thank you Mollygo -the “Patience Strong platitudes” comments are entirely out of order - sneery hardly comes come close.
Following on from escaped ‘s reference to suffering and Viktor Frankl, it may be of interest to look at the writing of another Auschwitz survivor who became a renowned psychotherapist, Edith Eger who said in one of her inspiring books
You can't change what happened, you can't change what you did or what was done to you. But you can choose how you live now
Moving on is the only way.

👏 👏 👏

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 03-Feb-25 13:02:39

Allira

One minute we're told we aren't supposed to believe what we see on FB as much is AI generated and fake news, the next it's the Gospel?

Fakebook: why Facebook makes the fake news problem inevitable
nilq.qub.ac.uk/index.php/nilq/issue694-article2

You have to larf! 😂

RosieandherMaw Mon 03-Feb-25 13:02:36

Thank you Mollygo -the “Patience Strong platitudes” comments are entirely out of order - sneery hardly comes come close.
Following on from escaped ‘s reference to suffering and Viktor Frankl, it may be of interest to look at the writing of another Auschwitz survivor who became a renowned psychotherapist, Edith Eger who said in one of her inspiring books
You can't change what happened, you can't change what you did or what was done to you. But you can choose how you live now
Moving on is the only way.

Barleyfields Mon 03-Feb-25 13:00:14

I can’t believe that anyone would post as fact something they read on FB, and expect others to believe it. No credibility whatsoever.

Doodledog Mon 03-Feb-25 12:59:16

maddyone

Mamie

Well if we have to get over Brexit, then clearly people have to get over constantly complaining about the Labour government. I look forward to that.

The vote was nearly nine years ago. We left five years ago.
The Labour Party have been in power for seven months.
Spot the difference *Mamie? *

The difference as I see it is that Brexit has had a long time to see through teething troubles and show its mettle, whereas the new government has not. Yet there are countless threads and even more posts whinging about the fact that 14 years of Tory mismanagement have not been rectified overnight, but if anyone points out that part of the reason for the intractable nature of some of the economic blight is Brexit they are accused of 'bleating' and an inability to ;get over it'.

That's quite a difference.

escaped Mon 03-Feb-25 12:54:32

I think 2225 people were asked.

Allira Mon 03-Feb-25 12:54:09

Better to look at the actual link, if you wish, but to remember that this is not a totally representative cross-section of the whole British public.

55% of Britons now say it was wrong for the UK to leave the EU, with just 11% seeing Brexit as more of a success than a failure

yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51484-how-do-britons-feel-about-brexit-five-years-on

It's how you tell 'em!
(That's not Patience Strong, btw)

escaped Mon 03-Feb-25 12:50:59

If it's genuine?

GrannyGravy13 Mon 03-Feb-25 12:49:16

escaped

The link to Facebook

Thank you

escaped Mon 03-Feb-25 12:47:50

The link to Facebook

Allira Mon 03-Feb-25 12:47:22

One minute we're told we aren't supposed to believe what we see on FB as much is AI generated and fake news, the next it's the Gospel?

Fakebook: why Facebook makes the fake news problem inevitable
nilq.qub.ac.uk/index.php/nilq/issue694-article2

GrannyGravy13 Mon 03-Feb-25 12:46:52

Claremont

48/52 is not very clear, I agree.

89% IS VERY CLEAR.

Who carried out this poll?

Is it just some random Facebook one, if you post where it is from we can look for ourselves.

escaped Mon 03-Feb-25 12:45:14

Mollygo

MaizieD
^I really wouldn't bother to argue the toss, Claremont. just leave them to their feelings of superiority and their Patience Strong platitudes.

Wow! Catty in the extreme and inaccurate about PS.

At least we know that the Leave voters among them won't be in the least bit bothered about moving closer to the EU, even possibly rejoining.

And you know this how?

What we remainers have to accept and move on from is the inertia and the feelings of superiority that they would win anyway, exhibited by all those who didn’t bother to vote.

Good post Mollygo.
The essence of this thread appeared to be a discussion about the cliché/idiom/slogan get over it. Several interesting points were made about the usage of upbeat sayings taken from song lyrics and literature. Then along comes a sneery post about feelings of superiority!

Claremont Mon 03-Feb-25 12:44:38

48/52 is not very clear, I agree.

89% IS VERY CLEAR.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 03-Feb-25 12:44:02

Invalid…

I am not on Facebook so even if it was valid I couldn’t access it.

Have you another source?

sundowngirl Mon 03-Feb-25 12:41:45

Yes please Claremont respond to GG13 - where did the 11% come from?? I know I wasn't asked, nor any members of my family or friends and we all know how polls can get it wrong. Just like the polls before the referendum