Still told to 'get over it, it's done.

Allira

Claremont has every right to express her views.

It doesn't mean we necessarily have to agree with one another.

There might however be an optimum number of ways and indeed times of repeating these views before others switch off?

^ Allira
Claremont has every right to express her views.^

As do we all.

We also have the right to express them again and again and again.

^ It doesn't mean we necessarily have to agree with one another.^

Allira

Claremont has every right to express her views.

It doesn't mean we necessarily have to agree with one another.

Totally, thanks.

Claremont referred to problems expats are having post-Brexit, hence my suggestion. I didn’t mean that she was an expat.

No. Brexit has happened.
We can try to do something new, but you can’t change the past.
If we establish links with the EU in the future, that doesn’t change the past, so they will be on different terms.
Going on and on about what is in the past doesn't change anything.
We can’t change the fact that over 1,000,000 didn’t think it was worth voting for Remain and we can’t be certain that they would do so in the future.

Claremont has every right to express her views.

It doesn't mean we necessarily have to agree with one another.

MayBee70

Barleyfields

Perhaps you would do better venting on some expats forum rather than continuing to harangue us, with predictable responses?

I don’t regard Claremont as an ex pat and am quite happy for her to air her views on what is happening in this country. I don’t see what right you have to say this.

No, I don't regard Claremont as an ex-pat either.

Ex-pat
a person who lives outside their native country.

What shortages?

Mollygo

Of course we can change the future. Nobody has said we can’t.
What you can’t do is change the past, unless you’re starring in Quantum Leap.

And this is exactly whatI suggest we do. Brexit is not done, and never has been. But we can change what it means in the future, improve on trade deal, rejoin customs union - the future can be influenced. And the current effects are real.

Back to the OP- if only a very small minority is now in favour of the Brexit we have, then it is time for change. Shortages of all sorts, and security issues in a very dangerous world, make this even more important than it ever was at the time.

I know nothing about you- and you know nothing about me.

Of course we can change the future. Nobody has said we can’t.
What you can’t do is change the past, unless you’re starring in Quantum Leap.

Barleyfields

Perhaps you would do better venting on some expats forum rather than continuing to harangue us, with predictable responses?

I don’t regard Claremont as an ex pat and am quite happy for her to air her views on what is happening in this country. I don’t see what right you have to say this.

Of course we can change the future, and we will.

Not your choice to make, Why should I? Absolutely none of your business, and actual harrassment.

Barleyfields

Perhaps you would do better venting on some expats forum rather than continuing to harangue us, with predictable responses?

Claremont, It’s the endless repetition . . . and the seeming enjoyment you seem to get from gloating about something that we can’t change.

Perhaps you would do better venting on some expats forum rather than continuing to harangue us, with predictable responses?

Totally irrelevant. There are quite a few British citizens on GN who live abroad and are on UK pensions and seriously affected, as well as their family back in UK. 100% irrelevant to the subject of the massive damage, on all fronts, done by Brexit.

Claremont

Barleyfields

Switzerland also had a pretty unique position, of its own choosing, in WW2. And has a banking system happy to allow despots and tax evaders and other criminals to maintain secret accounts.

Indeed, what on earth has this got to do with this thread?

It looks as though some people think you live in Switzerland and not the UK.. Claremont.. not sure why or even if it's relevant to your thoughts about the EU

Barleyfields

You mentioned its unique position.

Switzerland is unique in the world, imo.

Not better, just unique.

You mentioned its unique position.

Barleyfields

Switzerland also had a pretty unique position, of its own choosing, in WW2. And has a banking system happy to allow despots and tax evaders and other criminals to maintain secret accounts.

Indeed, what on earth has this got to do with this thread?

Mollygo

Claremont, I’m wondering if you’re related to my distant cousin.
She, much better off than we were as children, used to spend a lot of time boasting about all the things she could have that she knew we couldn’t afford, evidently getting great enjoyment from doing so. Not a ‘nice’ trait.

Where on earth have I done that?

This thread is about the UK, for British people who are all the victims of the disastrous effects of Brexit, like you and me. What on earth has this got to do with Switzerland, which I never introduced in the converstation.

The Swiss do have very high salaries and standard of living. Nothing to do with us Brits.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

But weren’t the UK net contributors of the EU? Yes we got access but on the whole we did put into the coffers more than we got out. It cost us very dearly overall. Less affluent countries do very well within the EU as it’s a sort of ‘levelling up’ exercise. No wonder they love it.

However, To be honest I’m glad we are out.

Oh yes, a Croatian friend could not understand why the majority vote was to leave. The EU - it gives you lots of money!

But weren’t the UK net contributors of the EU? Yes we got access but on the whole we did put into the coffers more than we got out. It cost us very dearly overall. Less affluent countries do very well within the EU as it’s a sort of ‘levelling up’ exercise. No wonder they love it.

However, To be honest I’m glad we are out.

Switzerland also had a pretty unique position, of its own choosing, in WW2. And has a banking system happy to allow despots and tax evaders and other criminals to maintain secret accounts.

Claremont, I’m wondering if you’re related to my distant cousin.
She, much better off than we were as children, used to spend a lot of time boasting about all the things she could have that she knew we couldn’t afford, evidently getting great enjoyment from doing so. Not a ‘nice’ trait.