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Still told to 'get over it, it's done.

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Claremont Sun 02-Feb-25 20:05:54

And yet only 11 - yes, ELEVEN percent, believe it was a success. And only 24% of Reform. That is just staggering, but not surprising.

Why on earth should we 'get over it'?

Cossy Mon 03-Feb-25 10:06:51

Doodledog

*Get thee hence to pedants corner 😁*
Fair enough 😂

😂😂😂😂😂

Doodledog Mon 03-Feb-25 10:05:49

Get thee hence to pedants corner 😁
Fair enough 😂

MaizieD Mon 03-Feb-25 10:01:47

Doodledog

‘Things can only get better’ was a line from a song, so a quote, not a cliche. Just saying 😉

If someone is going to use it as a cliché they're as well using it to illustrate a successful use of it 😆

Cossy Mon 03-Feb-25 10:00:41

Whitewavemark2

We know that the courts upheld the allegation of fraud, corruption, overspend and other stuff by the vote leave group. But because it was merely an advisory vote they were never prosecuted.

So I’m not convinced that it can be called a democratic vote.

It certainly wasn’t a vote based solely on facts and the truth.

However, I’m with the “try and move forward positively brigade” (though it’s tough) and the “hope Starmer makes some decent trade deals brigade”

Tbh I’m still angry about the whole Brexit debacle! IMO, Johnson didn’t “get Brexit done”, we all “got done by Brexit”

MaizieD Mon 03-Feb-25 09:58:20

Oreo

MaizieD

As time goes on ‘things can only get better’ to use another cliche😃

And we all know what happened to the Labour party when they used that cliché…

Yes, Tony Blair and New Labour won the GE twice didn’t they?

It was Neil Kinnock who lost after the triumphalist Conference.

Barleyfields Mon 03-Feb-25 09:56:09

Rula

*God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,*
the courage to change the things I can,
*and the wisdom to know the difference.*

This. What’s done is done. Unless and until you have an opportunity to change things, accept it and move on. Life is too short.

Cossy Mon 03-Feb-25 09:53:53

Churchview

I assume by 'getting over it' people mean acceptance of a situation. Acceptance doesn't mean the end of debate though and not all debate is 'bleating'.

I agree

Oreo Mon 03-Feb-25 09:49:37

Doodledog

‘Things can only get better’ was a line from a song, so a quote, not a cliche. Just saying 😉

Get thee hence to pedants corner 😁

Doodledog Mon 03-Feb-25 09:45:53

‘Things can only get better’ was a line from a song, so a quote, not a cliche. Just saying 😉

Oreo Mon 03-Feb-25 09:44:19

Freya5 it’s SM isn’t it, gives the grumblers and ranters about Brexit an outlet.In the past it would have been confined to pub bores and those standing on soap boxes.

Freya5 Mon 03-Feb-25 09:38:11

theworriedwell

Well we voted yes back in the 70s and people pushed to come out. They didn't get over it did they.

I was one that voted No, in those halcyon days. Did I get over it yes, it didn't rule my life that's for sure, I didn't harp on about it week in, week out. Now we are out, I see life going on, business esses have adapted,we can still visit Europe, we still get goods from Europe, if you want to spend money on them, you can still live and work over there, two of my family have. As for retiring there, Spain etc are putting up so many barriers, I wouldn't even bother. Europe appears to be crumbling anyway, too many fat cats with noses in the trough!!

GrannyGravy13 Mon 03-Feb-25 09:36:21

Just had a Quick Look online, the latest figures I could find are nothing like the OP’s 🤷‍♀️

Please can we have a link to your figures Claremont

Indigo8 Mon 03-Feb-25 09:35:38

History shows time and time again that shrugging and deciding to "just get over it" can be a dangerous way to proceed.

fancythat Mon 03-Feb-25 09:33:27

^Saying (talk about repetition here!) 'get over it' like Ariston, on and on - is much worse than bleating, as it accepts disaster without trying to find ways out. How constructive is this?

^

When people say "get over it". I dont think they mean stop trying to find ways out.
They mean "accept the result".

When I see people talking about Brexit[I presume this has all come from the thread about why are people not celebrating Brexit], some of those who voted Remain, seem to me at least, have far from accepted the result.

If people dont like the result that is one thing.
Not accepting it is quite another. In my opinion.

Oreo Mon 03-Feb-25 09:31:01

On Gransnet mainly 😂

growstuff Mon 03-Feb-25 09:29:31

Oreo

I think some people, mainly on forums only, are extreme wallowers, verging on obsession really about this subject.I think also that Starmer is doing his best to get a deal but has red lines such as no movement of people, and I hope another red line is fishing rights.
Slowly but surely people here will get used to the idea that we have left the EU but are still a part of Europe and life goes on.😃

I don't know which sites you frequent, but I haven't come across much extreme wallowing. It must be the company you keep.

Oreo Mon 03-Feb-25 09:28:14

MaizieD

^As time goes on ‘things can only get better’ to use another cliche😃^

And we all know what happened to the Labour party when they used that cliché…

Yes, Tony Blair and New Labour won the GE twice didn’t they?

Oreo Mon 03-Feb-25 09:26:38

I think some people, mainly on forums only, are extreme wallowers, verging on obsession really about this subject.I think also that Starmer is doing his best to get a deal but has red lines such as no movement of people, and I hope another red line is fishing rights.
Slowly but surely people here will get used to the idea that we have left the EU but are still a part of Europe and life goes on.😃

MaizieD Mon 03-Feb-25 09:22:06

As time goes on ‘things can only get better’ to use another cliche😃

And we all know what happened to the Labour party when they used that cliché…

merlotgran Mon 03-Feb-25 09:21:35

LizzieDrip

There’s far more “wallowing” and “bleating” about the Labour government than about Brexit!

How do you work that out?

The anti Brexit brigade have had years to voice their objections whereas having a little whine and a moan about Starmer and Reeves has only just got started.

Give us a chance! 😂😂

Oreo Mon 03-Feb-25 09:17:13

I was listening to some political chat on the radio the other day where it was said that it was impossible to say how Brexit affected the economy as it was inextricably mixed up with the massive cost to us of the war in Ukraine and the massive cost of the pandemic.
As time goes on ‘things can only get better’ to use another cliche😃

fancythat Mon 03-Feb-25 09:15:04

I was replying to LD.

fancythat Mon 03-Feb-25 09:13:48

Are people wallowing about that?
I havent met any, but I suppose they do.

Wallowing is not good for anyone.
[I am not counting bereavement. Thankfully I know little about that subject really].

Claremont Mon 03-Feb-25 09:12:09

RosieandherMaw

Because bleating about it is neither constructive nor helpful?

You know that this is extremely rude and definitely unhelpful. Bleating hey! No-one is bleating- but with only 11 ELEVEN percent still in favour, the balance has definitely changed.

No-one wants to 'bleat' but with the economy in such dire straits, and that means all of us- something has to be done.

Discussing what can be done to go forwards and somehow redress the damage, is not bleating. Saying (talk about repetition here!) 'get over it' like Ariston, on and on - is much worse than bleating, as it accepts disaster without trying to find ways out. How constructive is this?

LizzieDrip Mon 03-Feb-25 09:10:35

Labour won the democratic election … “get over it”smile