Still told to 'get over it, it's done.

There’s far more “wallowing” and “bleating” about the Labour government than about Brexit!

loopyloo

And rather than a third runway at Heathrow could we expand and improve Dover and start using ships powered by wind and sun to move more freight that way. Also Harwich and Southampton.
Will email Ed Millibamd
I might email Ed Milliband.

Obviously the plans to expand Dover harbour passed you by.

fancythat

What others say.

But if people want to wallow, that is their perogative.

I haven't come across many wallowers, but I've come across loads of people who claim others wallow. Most people I know just want to make the best of a bad job.

MaizieD

I don’t think teetotal Trump will be having any boozing sessions with our MP for Clacton in the foreseeable future 😂

I forgot Trump is teetotal. Clacton has mini golf - maybe Trump would like that.

Not a very clear title or opening post, but from reading the comments, I'm guessing this is about Brexit.

I understand the result was disappointing for many. I occasionally have my own misgivings.

What I don't understand is why some people
get themselves so terribly stressed about it. If you cry for a week, it won't change anything. My mantra it to just accept what is decided, both by the voters or by the government of the time. I've had to do that in the past 6 months, and I've got over it, though I occasionally give out a little sigh!

Or rant.

Or worse, I know someone who had a heart attack at what she perceived was a big injustice[not politics related].
It can be proved that that was what happened as she having her heart monitored at the time!

People can and do ruin their health through stress. and angst. And I dont know what else.

All not for me personally.

What others say.

But if people want to wallow, that is their perogative.

DEBS ! 😱

I know that google is my friend, but who on earth is Eugene V Dobbs 🤔

RosieandherMaw

Because bleating about it is neither constructive nor helpful?

Who's bleating - apart from the Brexit absolutists? Everyone else has recognised the harm that's come from it and is trying to maximise the benefits. In contrast, Brexit extremists are beginning to look like dinosaurs.

There are small pockets of these absolutists in every community, but they are far from being a majority nowadays. Previous majorities, however, eventually count for nothing.

As Eugene V. Debs once said, 'When great changes occur in history, when great principles are involved, as a rule the majority are wrong.' This quote seems particularly apt in the context of Brexit, where the majority's views are no longer dominant.

I don’t think teetotal Trump will be having any boozing sessions with our MP for Clacton in the foreseeable future 😂

This what the local paper has to say:

www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/nigel-farage-donald-trump-clacton-9696704

Maybe Trump will turn Clacton Pier into a duplicate Mar-a-Lago?

I believe in free speech and so maintain my stand of blaming brexit for most of the woes this country is facing and about which people complain about here on a daily basis.

It was a car crash and no one has cleared the wreck away yet. I see the wreck everywhere and can not shift it myself, but I do have the right to say that I wish someone would!

What many people don't seem to realise is that brexit has hardly begun. We are still paying into the EU as our fee for leaving- we still get some EU funding for long-term projects that aren't yet completed. It remains a system of exchange that hasn't yet discarded the deals made.

We need to get back into the customs union first of all- but all those negotiations will take time, money and the motivation this government seems to lack.

Meanwhile the wreckage corrodes and becomes more unsightly every day- eventually it will be covered in weeds and the archeologists will come across it in a few hundred years and say, 'whatever were they playing at?'

It’s far too dangerous for him to visit Clacton, isn’t it?

That’s the story I heard when his non appearance as a constituency MP was remarked on last autumn.

Chocolatelovinggran

Well Mr Farage has plenty of time to plan his redecoration of No 10, nanna8, however deluded such a concept that might be, because he's not been seen much in his constituency, I understand. He seems to lack enthusiasm for working at his job, which was a feature of his years as an MEP.
Of course, I could be wrong . Do we have any GNetters who could update us?

Don't be mean! How is he supposed to fit in visits to Clacton when he's so busy flying over the Atlantic?

growstuff

loopyloo

And if we had stayed in what might we be saying now?
The pressures of Covid, the Ukraine war and Trump have impacted the EU countries badly too.
There comes a point when you do have to say it is what it is and move forward which is what the government is doing.

Hopefully it's moving forward to re-establish some of the links it lost with the EU.

That’s my hope, too. It’s just so frustrating when they so ostentatiously rule out EU overtures.

What is the point of that, except to appear to be pandering to a group of voters which now seems to barely exist? Or to whom leaving the EU has made minimal difference to their lives? (Because if it had made a difference they would be able to tell us all the good it has done. But they can’t.)

Well Mr Farage has plenty of time to plan his redecoration of No 10, nanna8, however deluded such a concept that might be, because he's not been seen much in his constituency, I understand. He seems to lack enthusiasm for working at his job, which was a feature of his years as an MEP.
Of course, I could be wrong . Do we have any GNetters who could update us?

And rather than a third runway at Heathrow could we expand and improve Dover and start using ships powered by wind and sun to move more freight that way. Also Harwich and Southampton.
Will email Ed Millibamd
I might email Ed Milliband.

That's what I'm hoping for growstuff.

loopyloo

And if we had stayed in what might we be saying now?
The pressures of Covid, the Ukraine war and Trump have impacted the EU countries badly too.
There comes a point when you do have to say it is what it is and move forward which is what the government is doing.

Hopefully it's moving forward to re-establish some of the links it lost with the EU.

And that's a cliche I hate. It is what it appears to be, or it is what is presented to us by MSM, or it is what it is but will be different tomorrow.
It is what it is but would look changed in a brighter light.
Excuse my ramblings.
What is truth ? Said Pilate.

And if we had stayed in what might we be saying now?
The pressures of Covid, the Ukraine war and Trump have impacted the EU countries badly too.
There comes a point when you do have to say it is what it is and move forward which is what the government is doing.

We should use your last sentence as the Gransnet political threads mantra Sarnia.

I don't get stressed about it, even though I think it was an act of self-harm on a national scale. Nevertheless, I'm glad to see that Starmer is to join an EU leaders' meeting because I do think the UK needs to have better relationships with the EU on issues such as defence, crime and trade. Without rejoining the EU, we need to pick up some of the baby which was thrown out with the bathwater.

No matter how anyone feels about Brexit we have to accept the democratic vote and move with it.
For such an important referendum, it was poorly managed. I never felt I had the full facts, the pros and cons, an unbiased review, of Remain or Leave prior to voting.
Boris and Cameron treated it as a game of one-upmanship instead of a vitally important campaign for our country's future.
I would try not to get stressed over something you can do nothing about. We are the mercy of politicians each and every day.