Still told to 'get over it, it's done.

We know that the courts upheld the allegation of fraud, corruption, overspend and other stuff by the vote leave group. But because it was merely an advisory vote they were never prosecuted.

So I’m not convinced that it can be called a democratic vote.

Mamie

nanna8

The gift that keeps on giving. Nigel Farage must be over the moon and getting ready to form the next government and who can blame him?

If an increasing majority of the population think Brexit was a mistake, why on earth would they vote for Farage?

My guess is that Reform's vote share will peak, possible at about 25%. That won't be enough to have an overall majority. However, with the UK's voting system - and depending how clever Reform is about concentrating its efforts - it could result in more MPs than it has now. You only have to look at the LibDems to see how, historically, their vote share has very little correlation with the actual number of MPs. That's because the LDs are canny about which seats they target.

Even if a 75% majority of the voters think Brexit was a mistake, their support in a general election will be divided between a number of political parties. Moreover, the way they actually vote will be influenced by other factors other than Brexit. Reform has an advantage in any vote about Brexit because it doesn't really have many serious policies other than anti-EU and anti-immigrant.

nanna8

The gift that keeps on giving. Nigel Farage must be over the moon and getting ready to form the next government and who can blame him?

I hope for his sake that he isn't getting ready to form the next government. On second thoughts, I couldn't care less about him, but anybody who is daft enough to think that he will, needs to give his/her head a wobble. I think you have a slightly distorted view of the UK.

nanna8

The gift that keeps on giving. Nigel Farage must be over the moon and getting ready to form the next government and who can blame him?

If an increasing majority of the population think Brexit was a mistake, why on earth would they vote for Farage?

Well if we have to get over Brexit, then clearly people have to get over constantly complaining about the Labour government. I look forward to that.

A situation which makes it even more frustrating and inexplicable when the Labour leadership resolutely rejects any proposition from the EU which would bring the UK closer.

Ah. Would that be ‘getting over it’? Or ignoring ’the will of the people’?

Would it ‘bring the country to its knees’, or ‘push the economy off a cliff’?

Is it ‘common sense’? Or ‘flying in the face of democracy’?

Does anyone know anything anymore?

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can,
and the wisdom to know the difference.

henetha

Well, to use another cliché, it's time we moved on....

Nobody is stopping you. You’re free to move as far as you like.

Just stop telling other people what to do.

Well, to use another cliché, it's time we moved on....

RosieandherMaw

Because bleating about it is neither constructive nor helpful?

Quite!

Doodledog

What does ‘getting over it’ mean, please?

I don’t like the way discussions these days are centred on cliches and popular phrases that are essentially meaningless.

Sorry, Doodledog, I was just about to use another cliché when I saw your post.
Oh, I'm going to post it anyway.

As my DC say "Build a bridge and get over it"

A situation which makes it even more frustrating and inexplicable when the Labour leadership resolutely rejects any proposition from the EU which would bring the UK closer.

I do so wish that they would do at least one thing that would be mildly popular with most voters instead of shutting their eyes and ears in defiance of favourable opinion…

The Government could start by building a bridge (metaphorically speaking) and meeting them halfway.

The gift that keeps on giving. Nigel Farage must be over the moon and getting ready to form the next government and who can blame him?

Existing treaties are not worth the paper they are written on. For the foreseable future I can see no way that we can sensible negotiaate with the US on anything. This makes our links with the EU even more important to us, for every reason from trade, to being associated with a larger international organisation when Trump starts waving his big stick.

A situation which makes it even more frustrating and inexplicable when the Labour leadership resolutely rejects any proposition from the EU which would bring the UK closer.

I do so wish that they would do at least one thing that would be mildly popular with most voters instead of shutting their eyes and ears in defiance of favourable opinion…

And…

What has happened has happened. The EU is not an organisation where you 'put one foot in, you take one foot out, you put one foot in and shake it all about'

We had a referendum and like it or not ( and I don't like it) the result was that we came out of the EU. Wasting time and effort now bemoaning the fact and whinging left right and centre will get us not just nowhere, but up a creek without a paddle.

What we need to do now is work to get good relations with the EU and work out treaties and agreements that mean we have as goo an entry into EU markets as is possible, as, of course. we will be doing with other countries.

However I think priority should be given to regularising our relationship with the EU. They are our nearest and one of our biggest markets. In addition the change of President in the US has majorly changed our relationship with that country.

It is clear that the negotiation tactics of the Trump adminstration consist of saying to their 'partners 'do everything my way or I will hit you on the head with a big stick and kick you up the bum.'

Existing treaties are not worth the paper they are written on. For the foreseable future I can see no way that we can sensible negotiaate with the US on anything. This makes our links with the EU even more important to us, for every reason from trade, to being associated with a larger international organisation when Trump starts waving his big stick.

I don’t know what is going on

I think “getting over it” is a meaningless concept with regard to Brexit. As if we had any choice.
Boris Johnson and the Brexiteers made this bed of nails but the rest of us also have to lie on it. No reason at all why we shouldn’t remind them of their folly.

Well we voted yes back in the 70s and people pushed to come out. They didn't get over it did they.

Churchview

I assume by 'getting over it' people mean acceptance of a situation. Acceptance doesn't mean the end of debate though and not all debate is 'bleating'.

Nor need "debate" degenerate into bleating.
One stops listening after endless repetition.

Well, you'll just have to "suck it up", Doodledog 😉

I assume by 'getting over it' people mean acceptance of a situation. Acceptance doesn't mean the end of debate though and not all debate is 'bleating'.

What does ‘getting over it’ mean, please?

I don’t like the way discussions these days are centred on cliches and popular phrases that are essentially meaningless.

Not getting over it isn't good for your mental health.

We don't have to get over it but we do have to get on with it. No choice is there. I rarely think about it now.

What other action do you propose?