Kier Starmer & voice coach during tier 4 lockdown

Mt61

Ahh back to the beer & curry, last tin

Going to say last time I went out for a curry, I was violently sick for a couple of days, I haven’t touched curry since.. so would rather stick to a slice of cake.
Probably one person has made the cake, whereas there would have been a few chefs knocking up the curry so more chance of food poisoning (at the time there was all that hand hygiene going on) … me just thinking out loud

Ahh back to the beer & curry, last tin

Mollygo

DD, I did comment on meal versus piece of cake. For further info, address MT61.
Desperate defences appear daily.

Which 'desperate defences', and of what? I am losing the thread of this conversation now

Boris Johnson was disgusting and so was Starmer. No excuses for either of them. Two weasels who lie at the drop of a hat. Oh for some decent, honest politicians.

DD, I did comment on meal versus piece of cake. For further info, address MT61.
Desperate defences appear daily.

None of that was covered in Pygmalion, however 'desperately' the joke tries to link the two entirely different scenarios.

Did you have a comment on Mt61's 'strange ideas' incidentally?

FriedGreenTomatoes2

The cartoonists are having a hay day with this!

Not totally missing the point at all.
The fact that Starmer, who had held jobs in public offices requiring him to speak, felt he so desperately needed help with his speaking to enable him communicate, that he needed a speech coach to travel from a tier 3, to a tier 4 area during Covid, whilst criticising others for the same sort of infraction is what is under discussion.
The desperate attempts to defend him are highlighted daily.

Hilarious🙄. Totally missing the point that Pygmalion is a satire on how the way that people speak influences the way they are perceived by the shallow and/or snobbish, so there is a need for tuition to level the proverbial playing field.

Ho ho.

The cartoonists are having a hay day with this!

Mollygo

Some very strange ideas about the difference between curry-a meal and cake -a snack unless served as part of a meal.
Allira it’s not very odd at all. It’s another example of ^One rule for . . , ^

Which strange ideas are you talking about, Molly? Are the Some Ideas coming from Some People again?

If you read my post, I was questioning the idea that having a curry is worse than having birthday cake. To spell it out, a meal is necessary for sustenance, so if it is ok for people to be working together, it is ok for them to have lunch together as the purpose of the meeting is work. Cake at a party is different, in that the purpose of the get-together is a celebration, which is very different in lockdown. What is eaten is neither here nor there in either case.

It was Mt61 who made the comparison in the first place, so maybe it is her post you find strange? As ever, though, it is difficult to respond when there is no direct reference.

I don't think the BBC can be particularly biased as both right and left wings claim that the BBC is biased.

Very true, Allira. That being the case they must be managing to stay fairly neutral, though we all like to feel aggrieved at perceived bias every now and again.

We once ate our way through a hotel breakfast while the table to one side of us complained about their left wing bias, and the table at the other side were bemoaning their bias towards the right wing. It was very entertaining.

Just another hypocritical politician. Doesn’t inspire confidence in their profession, does it ? It seems the first attribute for an MP is the ability to lie and dissemble.

Mt61

Well the BBC would say that as they are biased towards the labour government Allira

The BBC just quoted from a book
Details about the voice coach's visit were revealed in excerpts of Get In, a book on Sir Keir's leadership being serialised by the Sunday Times.

That was a quote, not a BBC opinion.

I don't think the BBC can be particularly biased as both right and left wings claim that the BBC is biased.

Cossy

Whilst I think ALL those in high positions of public service and authority should be called out if they break the rules, Starmer baiting is getting a bit boring and there is so much more to complain and worry about!

Yes might be boring to you Cossy now that he’s got away Scott free, we have to put up, & shut up about it now! I am 100 % sure you would not be saying that if it was BJ or NF?
Next time round I won’t be sticking to any more lockdown down rules, that for certain.

Well the BBC would say that as they are biased towards the labour government Allira

After WORK is the clue. They were all working extremely long hours and earned a brief respite.
As said previously, one rule for Tories, another for Labour and particularly Starmer.

Some very strange ideas about the difference between curry-a meal and cake -a snack unless served as part of a meal.
Allira it’s not very odd at all. It’s another example of One rule for . . ,

escaped

^committing over desks^
Now that would be something! 😲

😂😂

Whilst I think ALL those in high positions of public service and authority should be called out if they break the rules, Starmer baiting is getting a bit boring and there is so much more to complain and worry about!

A storm in a teacup, then.

committing over desks
Now that would be something! 😲

Why is curry worse than cake? I'm not sure Doodledog, except to say that a dodgy curry would result in lots of vomiting up the walls!

Vomiting - predictive text !

It wasn’t just the let them eat cake approach to lovkdown at number ten that was the issue as well everyone knows
As for the meal - police investigated and concluded no rules broken. They were working. That can’t be said of the staff at no 10’breaking the child’s sling buying a booze fridge and committing over desks

escaped

I don't get why Leonie and Keir weren't at home late on Christmas Eve with their respective families, nevermind whether anyone is Jewish, atheist or whatever. When there's an excited 10 year old child marooned at home, (due to covid restrictions), with their mother, you'd think dad, Starmer, might want to be around? And lonely Leonie sat on a train back to Brighton?
What a sad bunch! 😥

According to BBC News, it was stated in the book that Leonie didn't break rules.

Ms Mellinger qualified for keyworker status and also wore a face mask during her visit to Labour headquarters on Christmas Eve in 2020, according to a book about the party's rise to power.

So the voice coach wore a face mask throughout? Really? How can a voice coach do their job properly if no-one can see her mouth and she herself is mumbling behind a mask?

The Schools Minister has said:

"As far as I'm aware there were no Covid rules broken," she told Times Radio.

"People were able to go to work and undertake really important roles and that was clearly a very important moment in Britain where an important public statement had to be made."

The important public statement was just a response by the Leader of the Opposition, not a Government announcement. One of his political advisers could surely have told him to speak up, slow down, emphasise an important word.

It's all very odd.