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Farage. Well he’s Top of the Pops right now! šŸ˜‚

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 06-Feb-25 20:59:23

This tonight, from the ā€˜i’ newspaper (that I also now subscribe to, not just The Telegraph!) ….

ā€œNigel Farage stood up at Prime Minister’s Questions on Wednesday to hostile silence. Squashed together in the Commons, MPs from other parties glowered at him, and then delighted as he appeared to fluff his lines when asking a question about the Chagos Islands.

Behind the scenes it is a different story, with individual MPs from other parties queuing up to ask the Reform UK leader to sign House of Commons wine bottles and drinks coasters for family members and constituents who are fans of his brand of straight-talking populism. It’s not clear whether those MPs acknowledge the cognitive dissonance involved.

There’s no doubt Reform is having a moment. On average, the last half-dozen polls have put the party on 25 per cent, putting it equal first with Labour. Three of those polls put the party in the lead, either solely or in tandem with Labour.

It’s causing tangible jitters among both Labour and Conservative MPs. At PMQs, Farage accused them of ā€œpanic.ā€

This week a group of around 40 Labour MPs from ā€œRed Wallā€ seats in the north of England called for Sir Keir Starmer to send a stronger message on immigration as they seek to see off the threat from Farage and his crew ahead of local elections in May.

Behind the scenes, other Labour MPs have requested training sessions from No 10 on how to deal with Reform in their areas. ā€œIt really troubles them,ā€ a Labour source said.ā€

C’mon REFORM!

growstuff Sat 08-Feb-25 20:37:24

Chocolatelovinggran

Staffed by believers?! Believing in what - Jesus? Allah? The Easter Bunny? Who decides?
My vote is for anyone who could sing The Monkees song ( although that might narrow the age of candidates somewhat)

Most Reform voters probably could remember the Monkees song.

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 08-Feb-25 20:28:56

Oh please, the road leading up from the Port of Dover is dangerous enough without holiday makers/ lorries/ coaches / caravanners checking their Google translate app to read the road signs.

Churchview Sat 08-Feb-25 19:37:23

"Any signs in a foreign language should be removed - on roads, in hospitals/GP surgeries, for transport networks, wherever. This is England, and we speak English. Don't like it? Leave."

If Rupert Lowe gets his way thousands of drivers all across England will find themselves at the end of unmarked cul-de-sacs.

Do you think he realises that HM Government isn't just about England but the whole United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?

Churchview Sat 08-Feb-25 19:33:08

The latest Reform poster.

SilverBrook Sat 08-Feb-25 19:24:11

This piece three months ago from Enver Solomon, chief executive of the Refugee Council, puts it very well:

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/07/keir-starmer-migrant-crisis-tony-blair-crime-channel-crossings

MayBee70 Sat 08-Feb-25 19:14:39

Wyllow3

On "returning the boats" - here it is in Reform Policy document, clearly promoting the falsehood we can return the boats.

To the extent people on GN supporting Reform have been believing it.

What also chilled me however was point 4
New Dept. of Immigration staffed by believers

whats the plan? Like trump atm, sack all the workers in the Dept of immigration and reappoint by tested "believers".

There’s a really interesting programme on BBC2 called The Balkans. They just interviewed someone from Albania who had come to the UK on a boat but was sent back. The programme just pointed out that, if we want to stop people trying to get to the UK we need to help poor countries get richer. I also only recently learned that the reason why we left Afghanistan so suddenly ( thereby letting down all the Afghan people that had worked for us) was because it was militarily impossible for us to stay there once America had pulled out. Those poor people are still in danger and desperate to escape ( and Trump has just pulled the plug on them going to America). We have to get to the bottom of why people are needing to escape to the UK and it isn’t a quick fix.

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 08-Feb-25 18:15:05

Ok Casdon and GrannyGravy, I'll go with that: sorted.
Who will let The Reform Party know that we've done the work for them?

Allira Sat 08-Feb-25 18:14:48

GrannyGravy13

Casdon

Which of you two sings the most like Davy Jones, that will clinch the deal.

I had his poster on my bedroom wall šŸ’™

You win! 😁

No-one wants to hear me singing.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 08-Feb-25 18:08:03

Casdon

Which of you two sings the most like Davy Jones, that will clinch the deal.

I had his poster on my bedroom wall šŸ’™

Casdon Sat 08-Feb-25 18:04:12

Which of you two sings the most like Davy Jones, that will clinch the deal.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 08-Feb-25 18:01:42

Enforced rest is having an effect on my cognitive functioning, or it could be the drugs šŸ˜¹šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

Allira Sat 08-Feb-25 18:00:07

GrannyGravy13

I thought love was only true in fairy tales
Meant for someone else but not for me
Love was out to get me
That’s the way it seemed
Disappointment haunted all my dreams

And then I saw her face
Now I’m a believer
And not a trace
Of doubt in my mind
I’m in love
I’m a believer
I couldn’t leave her if I tried šŸŽ¶šŸŽ¶šŸŽ¶šŸŽ¶šŸŽ¶

What have we volunteered for GrannyGravy13?

GrannyGravy13 Sat 08-Feb-25 17:58:59

I thought love was only true in fairy tales
Meant for someone else but not for me
Love was out to get me
That’s the way it seemed
Disappointment haunted all my dreams

And then I saw her face
Now I’m a believer
And not a trace
Of doubt in my mind
I’m in love
I’m a believer
I couldn’t leave her if I tried šŸŽ¶šŸŽ¶šŸŽ¶šŸŽ¶šŸŽ¶

Allira Sat 08-Feb-25 17:54:18

Chocolatelovinggran

Staffed by believers?! Believing in what - Jesus? Allah? The Easter Bunny? Who decides?
My vote is for anyone who could sing The Monkees song ( although that might narrow the age of candidates somewhat)

My vote is for anyone who could sing The Monkees song
🤚

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 08-Feb-25 17:49:01

Staffed by believers?! Believing in what - Jesus? Allah? The Easter Bunny? Who decides?
My vote is for anyone who could sing The Monkees song ( although that might narrow the age of candidates somewhat)

Allira Sat 08-Feb-25 17:45:03

As for Farage, I can no longer ever look at him without thinking of Parker from Thunderbirds, his doppelgƤnger.

Parker reminds me of someone else but I can't think who. šŸ¤”

Casdon Sat 08-Feb-25 17:41:17

Boris Johnson was the three word slogan king I think.
Get Brexit Done!
Oven Ready Deal
Stay at Home
Hands, Face, Space
and hundreds more. He also wins the most frequently photographed bloopers by a politician competition - just Google, again there are hundreds. I think we became immune, whereas we remember the one offs by other politicians, because usually they are more sensible.

As for Farage, I can no longer ever look at him without thinking of Parker from Thunderbirds, his doppelgƤnger.

Allira Sat 08-Feb-25 17:26:15

Oh yes, and many actors looking like normal human beings or pulling a face (usually women).

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 08-Feb-25 17:22:25

The media has a habit of catching well-known people at their worst

Remember poor Ed Milliband with that bacon sandwich?
Or the Kinnocks getting bowled over by waves on the beach?

Allira Sat 08-Feb-25 17:06:55

You see - you remember them!! 😁

bathsalts Sat 08-Feb-25 16:59:26

GrannyGravy13

bathsalts

Three words I suppose. Cuts out any actual thinking or basic humanity.

Our current PM and Home Secretary are rather fond of three word slogans

^Smash the Gangs^

For sure, we've had a series of 3 word flops over the years.

Doesn't make this any more palatable.

Make Britain Great springs to mind?

For Mash Get Smash.... oh no that's 4.

Allira Sat 08-Feb-25 16:58:26

bathsalts

Three words I suppose. Cuts out any actual thinking or basic humanity.

That's what all politicians do, although some may even use five words.
"The pound in your pocket"
"Things can only get better"
"Not flash. Just Gordonā€ šŸ˜€
"Labour isn't working"
"Britain Deserves Better"
"Yes We Can"

And a longer one "A Week is a Long Time in Politics"

Because they're short and snappy people remember them.

Allira Sat 08-Feb-25 16:50:05

Claremont

The photo in the OP is sickingly retouched to make him look like an innocent angel! My foot.

This one is much more to the point, the text too

www.facebook.com/groups/tacticalvoting/permalink/1569798060371383/

😁

Well, he's not going to walk round all day with the expression in your link, Claremont!

No-one has the same expression all the time, probably not even you; I know I don't. The media has a habit of catching well-known people at their worst then publishing the pictures.

I don't like him but let's stick to facts.

growstuff Sat 08-Feb-25 16:09:42

Wyllow3

On "returning the boats" - here it is in Reform Policy document, clearly promoting the falsehood we can return the boats.

To the extent people on GN supporting Reform have been believing it.

What also chilled me however was point 4
New Dept. of Immigration staffed by believers

whats the plan? Like trump atm, sack all the workers in the Dept of immigration and reappoint by tested "believers".

For some reason that poster made me think of this www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv2MLlZKarM and now I can't get it out of my head.

Claremont Sat 08-Feb-25 15:46:59

The photo in the OP is sickingly retouched to make him look like an innocent angel! My foot.

This one is much more to the point, the text too

www.facebook.com/groups/tacticalvoting/permalink/1569798060371383/