Farage. Well he’s Top of the Pops right now! 😂

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I thought reform was a few points ahead of labour?

Interesting.

Mt61 it does say “ Three of those polls put the party in the lead, either solely or in tandem with Labour.”

Tandem means two- so two say they are level and one says they're ahead?

Take the glory while it lasts, even Farage himself knows he won't be PM. He can't even hack being an MP.

To be honest I think you could be right keepingquietas (a) I think he’s peaked too soon sadly and (b) Labour and the Tories are taking him seriously now so will change tack somewhat to accommodate the voter dissatisfactions.

Even the Speaker is biased. He allowed shouting and jeering etc. the other way round and he would have been shouting “Order, Order.”

I think I found this article quite a surprising one considering its not the Telegraph or he Daily Mail. Something is definitely shifting.

I always know who starts your threads FGT as soon as I read the title I say to myself bet that’s …l
I won’t write any more because I feel so sick looking at the photo you ve put on that I need the bathroom …lquick

Stop the world I want to get off.

About 60 years ago, the United Kingdom government secretly planned, with the United States, to force an entire Indigenous people, the Chagossians, from their homes in the Chagos Archipelago. The Indian Ocean islands were part of Mauritius, then a UK colony. The two governments agreed that a US military base would be built on Diego Garcia, the largest of the inhabited Chagos islands, and the island’s inhabitants would be removed. The UK government split the Chagos Archipelago from Mauritius, creating a new colony in Africa, the British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT). So that it would not have to report to the United Nations about its continued colonial rule, the UK falsely declared that Chagos had no permanent population.

The reality was that a community had lived on Chagos for centuries. The Chagossians are predominately descendants of enslaved people, forcibly brought from the African continent and Madagascar to the then-uninhabited Chagos islands where they worked on coconut plantations under French and British rule. Over the centuries they became a distinct people with their own Chagossian Creole language, music, and culture.

www.hrw.org/report/2023/02/15/thats-when-nightmare-started/uk-and-us-forced-displacement-chagossians-and

Sound familiar?

BlueBelle

I always know who starts your threads FGT as soon as I read the title I say to myself bet that’s …l
I won’t write any more because I feel so sick looking at the photo you ve put on that I need the bathroom …lquick

Was just about to say the same. Have to turn the tv off every time he comes on and I’m really not impressed with having a quick glance at gransnet only to see that picture. The constant adoration of Farage and Trump by some people on here is making me want to avoid the forum and it wouldn’t surprise me if it isn’t having the same effect on other people, too.

He has peaked too soon, I agree. They will get together and undermine him because it is in their interest. I look forward to the new LabCon party 🥹

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I think I found this article quite a surprising one considering its not the Telegraph or he Daily Mail. Something is definitely shifting.

The focus of the i is shifting . Either I am moving further to the Left (which I don't think is the case) or it is occupying the ground that the Telegraph left when it went bonkers.

I would be very interested to see proper independent research into what Reform supporters think life under their premiership would be like? What would be the differences between life in the UK now and life with NF as leader, and how would they achieve those differences?

I am relatively clued up about politics, but all I know about Reform is that they speak in soundbites and want to 'stop the boats' and bring in 'common sense'. I don't know what the latter means, and have no idea how they would go about achieving the former. Is there more to it than that?

The constant adoration of Farage and Trump by some people on here is making me want to avoid the forum and it wouldn’t surprise me if it isn’t having the same effect on other people, too.
I just hide these threads MayBee along with the games and Royal Family ones which I can't be bothered with.
So hiding it now.

Parsley3

^The constant adoration of Farage and Trump by some people on here is making me want to avoid the forum and it wouldn’t surprise me if it isn’t having the same effect on other people, too.^
I just hide these threads MayBee along with the games and Royal Family ones which I can't be bothered with.
So hiding it now.

Not sure how to hide things! Think I’ll just keep away from the place for a while…

Mr Farage also dismissed accusations that he led a “one-policy party”, and said that part of its success was “because people see us as positive”.

“’Family, community, country’, that’s our slogan. We are the things we think matter to people, the things which are being undervalued and have been damaged by successive governments. We have many strings to our bow,” he told the newspaper.

He went on to estimate that Reform had a “35 to 45 per cent chance” of him, or a “younger” Reform candidate, becoming prime minister at the next election.

The thing with Trump and Farage, as revolting as they are, is that they say things that everyone else is pussyfooting around. They remind me of the child pointing out that the Emperor’s new clothes didn’t exist.

Whatever you think about Mr Farage and Reform I think it’s obvious that the fox is definitely in the hen house.

Time for the other parties to take note…

What exactly is the point here? Is it personalities or policies? Once again, personality seems more important than policies. I can't say I actually like Nigel Farage, but that is beside the point. He is standing up for those who actually care about Great Britain and want to put a stop to its continuing decline, which is more than can be said for the majority of people on Gransnet!

mum2three 👏 👏 👏

We need another 50 like him!

Sir Edward Leigh, Conservative MP for Gainsborough, is calling for the Tories to join with Reform.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Mr Farage also dismissed accusations that he led a “one-policy party”, and said that part of its success was “because people see us as positive”.

“’Family, community, country’, that’s our slogan. We are the things we think matter to people, the things which are being undervalued and have been damaged by successive governments. We have many strings to our bow,” he told the newspaper.

He went on to estimate that Reform had a “35 to 45 per cent chance” of him, or a “younger” Reform candidate, becoming prime minister at the next election.

Yes, but ‘family, community, country’ is just sloganeering. ‘Kinde Kirche Kuche’ sort of thing. It doesn’t mean anything beyond an appeal to nebulous concepts that most people, of whatever political affiliation, probably value. When groups hijack universal concepts and claim them for their own it’s always a sign that we need to dig deeper.

‘Many strings to our bow’ is another empty slogan. What does it mean in practice? What tune would the fiddle be playing with its overstrung bow?

This awful degeneration into slogans and soundbites worries me. It hard to tell truth from lies, or fact from fiction these days as it is. If we can’t talk in our own language any more (with any attempt at precision at least) how can we pretend to be a democracy?

I'm getting off the world with Kate1949 if she will have me.