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Nigel Farage in London with hundreds of farmers today

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Primrose53 Mon 10-Feb-25 09:58:50

Say what you like about him, but he is all over the place and doing a good job. In London again today with hundreds of farmers. Various venues.

Freya5 Tue 11-Feb-25 10:14:31

Good for Nigel I say. If its OK for MP to March in the support terrorist marches, Corbyn, then OK for Nigel to support British farmers.

HousePlantQueen Tue 11-Feb-25 10:08:36

Clacton is near where I live and I can assure everyone that farming and IHT are not high on the list of concerns. Clacton has pockets of real poverty and the associated issues of poor health and badly performing schools, many pensioners relying only on SRP etc, overburdened GP surgeries. A high percentage of residents are on some kind of benefit. They are not being helped or represented by Farage, the very occasional photo op with a pint in his hand just doesn't cut it.

Cossy Tue 11-Feb-25 10:05:17

Chocolatelovinggran

Farage - saviour of farms and remover of Inheritance Tax.
Both of these matters high on the agenda in his constituency, obviously, ...or, maybe not.
Who knows? Mr Farage doesn't, because he's not there.
He does know that representing his constituents is unlikely to give him the same publicity.

Given that his constituency is extremely mixed, two of the most deprived wards in England, some farmland, and like pretty much everywhere pockets of very wealthy (Frinton, etc), its most unlikely that Mr F is representing his constiuency but rather, as always, using this as a photo opportunity!

Chocolatelovinggran Tue 11-Feb-25 08:24:42

Farage - saviour of farms and remover of Inheritance Tax.
Both of these matters high on the agenda in his constituency, obviously, ...or, maybe not.
Who knows? Mr Farage doesn't, because he's not there.
He does know that representing his constituents is unlikely to give him the same publicity.

David49 Tue 11-Feb-25 06:55:28

Allira

Women could not take out a mortgage on their own until at least 1975.
Under 21s could not take out a mortgage at that time.

You must have been on a very high salary, theworriedwell, to be able to save for a deposit and persuade a bank or building society to offer you a mortgage at 20.

Banks were much easier to deal with in those days, if the individual manager liked you and saw you had prospects, knew you previously, maybe had a good reference you would get the loan.

Today it’s all centralized tick the right boxes and you’re OK, little personal discretion.

Namsnanny Tue 11-Feb-25 00:12:02

Mt61

bathsalts

Farage and the Fishermen.....sounds like a band.

Farage , saviour of farms and food.

Musk, champion of abused young girls.

Do people actually believe this guff?

A lot of people must do, as a lot of people voted reform

I actually don't think anyone does, it just draws attention in sound bites, spoken by a high profile person, to a problem.

Mt61 Tue 11-Feb-25 00:07:21

bathsalts

Farage and the Fishermen.....sounds like a band.

Farage , saviour of farms and food.

Musk, champion of abused young girls.

Do people actually believe this guff?

A lot of people must do, as a lot of people voted reform

Allira Mon 10-Feb-25 23:10:50

I hope it paid out, grumppa

The two we took out in 1980 didn't. One firm made up the difference but the other firm did not.

grumppa Mon 10-Feb-25 23:05:08

My divorced mother took out a mortgage, aged forty-one, in 1956. She had been running her own business for about five years, and persuaded a life insurance company local manager to arrange a with-profits endowment mortgage for her.

Allira Mon 10-Feb-25 22:56:55

vegansrock

Tax the Junk Food, Fast Food, Super Processed Food giants driving obesity which costs the economy nearly £100 billion a year in obesity driven ill health.
Talk to farmers and sort out the inheritance tax so it doesn't bankrupt them and our countryside ends up being sold off to the international hedgefund managers and billionaires that already own every other bit of British assets.

Well said, vegansrock

Allira Mon 10-Feb-25 22:54:29

I can't imagine being so responsible at 20 😯

Curlywhirly Mon 10-Feb-25 22:37:38

We got a mortgage in 1976 - we were both 20.

Namsnanny Mon 10-Feb-25 22:14:06

vegansrock

Tax the Junk Food, Fast Food, Super Processed Food giants driving obesity which costs the economy nearly £100 billion a year in obesity driven ill health.
Talk to farmers and sort out the inheritance tax so it doesn't bankrupt them and our countryside ends up being sold off to the international hedgefund managers and billionaires that already own every other bit of British assets.

(before) our countryside ends up being sold off to the international hedgefund managers and billionaires that already own every other bit of British assets

This is the true reason for KS to attack small to medium farms.

When the land is taken out of farming, it means less choice for the consumer, and more control for the food industry. More power and money to the usual suspects.

Not so cockeyed from that point of view, is it?

theworriedwell Mon 10-Feb-25 21:42:35

My mortgage wasid to late 1974

theworriedwell Mon 10-Feb-25 21:26:29

I'm 71 and got a mortgage as the building society manager had opened my first account when I was 14 and felt I was a good bet. They did have discretion. My great grandmother had a mortgage in 1920 as a widow. As I said I worked hard and didn't fritter my money away. No holidays, one coat, one pair of shoes etc never drank alcohol
It was easy moving as I could carry everyi owned in a small suitcase.

theworriedwell Mon 10-Feb-25 21:21:19

I think it was a security thing. Dad died when I was a child, mum remarried unwisely and he wrecked my dad's business and left with half of what was left of his money. So my home was important. I got married and divorced but kept my house, remarried and DH had his own house but with a bigger mortgage. My kids will pay inheritance tax but to be honest if we leave them a million and they 'only' end up with 900k they will be doing ok.

M0nica Mon 10-Feb-25 21:16:59

Allira

Women could not take out a mortgage on their own until at least 1975.
Under 21s could not take out a mortgage at that time.

You must have been on a very high salary, theworriedwell, to be able to save for a deposit and persuade a bank or building society to offer you a mortgage at 20.

Possible worriedwell is one of the youngsters on GN. if she is only 60, she would have taken the mortgage out in 1985. AS to affording it, it depends where you lived. In 1968 on holiday in Northumberland we saw very nice minors cottages selling for £1,000. The following year we bought our first house on a commuter route into London and we paid £5,995

My sister took out a mortgage in her own name without a guarantor in 1977. She was 32. The house she bought was in Battersea, a starting to rise but not yet risen area, and paid about £5,000 for a 2 bed flat.

Churchview Mon 10-Feb-25 21:11:13

I took out a mortgage in 1983. I was 24.
I'd worked part time jobs and saved up since I was legally allowed to work and, when I started work full time I put money aside.
The wage/house price ratio was very different then to now and you didn't need a very high salary to buy a house then.

Ironically I was a farm labourer when I bought the house.
I worked for a man who'd inherited his family farm.
His son runs it now.
Neither of them ever paid a mortgage.

Allira Mon 10-Feb-25 21:04:59

Women could not take out a mortgage on their own until at least 1975.
Under 21s could not take out a mortgage at that time.

You must have been on a very high salary, theworriedwell, to be able to save for a deposit and persuade a bank or building society to offer you a mortgage at 20.

theworriedwell Mon 10-Feb-25 21:04:16

I always wanted my own house and started work part-time st14 full-time at 15 and saved every penny. Bought a wreck so building society would only give me 20 years

Allira Mon 10-Feb-25 20:54:47

theworriedwell

Barleyfields

Of course it sounds good to people who don’t have much to pass on. To those who do, it represents what they have worked and saved for for decades. Of course they could have frittered it all away and have nothing much to leave, but they chose not to. Should they be penalised for that choice?

You haven't worked and paid for the appreciation on your property. Most of us after 25 years live rent free, I had a 20 year mortgage I took out at 20. I've lived rent and mortgage free for over 30 years and meanwhile the value of the house has gone up by hundreds of thousands of pounds

Good grief!

A mortgage at 20 - was that possible? Over 20 years?
And paid off by 40?

Some of us only took out a mortgage in our 30s.

Allira Mon 10-Feb-25 20:51:57

Ilovecheese

I do hope they will be punished in the same matter as the climate change protesters if they hold up the traffic and prevent people getting to hospital appointments etc.

Ironic, given your username 😁

Of course, some cheese is imported so you should be ok.

theworriedwell Mon 10-Feb-25 20:32:38

Still wrong, 40 years ago. Third time lucky.

theworriedwell Mon 10-Feb-25 20:32:09

I do or rd 50 years ago.

theworriedwell Mon 10-Feb-25 20:31:08

Barleyfields

So did many people, but their circumstances - such as divorce to name but one - meant that their lives and mortgages didn’t turn out as planned.

So much h the same as people who rented and couldn't save?

I didn't or rd 40 years ago and eventually married another divorcee. Brought up 4 kids and been carer for disabled husband for 30 years. Life's tough isn't it.