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Nigel Farage in London with hundreds of farmers today

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Primrose53 Mon 10-Feb-25 09:58:50

Say what you like about him, but he is all over the place and doing a good job. In London again today with hundreds of farmers. Various venues.

MayBee70 Mon 10-Feb-25 19:57:33

Why were the news media interviewing Farage today instead of representatives of the farmers union? Why is he given so much publicitysad?

theworriedwell Mon 10-Feb-25 19:58:46

Barleyfields

Of course it sounds good to people who don’t have much to pass on. To those who do, it represents what they have worked and saved for for decades. Of course they could have frittered it all away and have nothing much to leave, but they chose not to. Should they be penalised for that choice?

You haven't worked and paid for the appreciation on your property. Most of us after 25 years live rent free, I had a 20 year mortgage I took out at 20. I've lived rent and mortgage free for over 30 years and meanwhile the value of the house has gone up by hundreds of thousands of pounds

theworriedwell Mon 10-Feb-25 19:59:47

MayBee70

Why were the news media interviewing Farage today instead of representatives of the farmers union? Why is he given so much publicitysad?

Presumably it'd not what you know it's who you know.

Barleyfields Mon 10-Feb-25 20:02:44

Lucky you, the worried well. Many people are still paying off a mortgage after they retire.

theworriedwell Mon 10-Feb-25 20:04:24

Can older farmers give their children a share in the farm? Would they still be able to live there and take an income if they own 50 or 25% of the farm?

Barleyfields Mon 10-Feb-25 20:06:18

They could, but the share given away would still form part of their estate for IHT.

theworriedwell Mon 10-Feb-25 20:06:52

Barleyfields

Lucky you, the worried well. Many people are still paying off a mortgage after they retire.

Oh well I worked hard and didn't fritter my money away did I.

Barleyfields Mon 10-Feb-25 20:13:55

So did many people, but their circumstances - such as divorce to name but one - meant that their lives and mortgages didn’t turn out as planned.

Ilovecheese Mon 10-Feb-25 20:15:48

I do hope they will be punished in the same matter as the climate change protesters if they hold up the traffic and prevent people getting to hospital appointments etc.

Jane43 Mon 10-Feb-25 20:20:40

Churchview

Also, when he was an MEP Farage had a gift of an opportunity to make huge positive impact on British farming. Instead he rarely attended the European parliament and on the few occasions he did he he made a complete fool of himself and our country by association.

When he has the chance to actually do some work and represent the people who voted for them he does nothing. The man's all for show and division.

His attendance record at the European Parliament was appalling he was 748th out of 751 MEPs on attendance and he gets a pension of £73,000 a year for that. Since the election he has lied about the Southport killer and about local elections being cancelled. Now Reform have 200,000 members he stands to get 60% of the annual fee of £25 they pay and he also charges people to attend meetings. The man is a con artist.

theworriedwell Mon 10-Feb-25 20:31:08

Barleyfields

So did many people, but their circumstances - such as divorce to name but one - meant that their lives and mortgages didn’t turn out as planned.

So much h the same as people who rented and couldn't save?

I didn't or rd 40 years ago and eventually married another divorcee. Brought up 4 kids and been carer for disabled husband for 30 years. Life's tough isn't it.

theworriedwell Mon 10-Feb-25 20:32:09

I do or rd 50 years ago.

theworriedwell Mon 10-Feb-25 20:32:38

Still wrong, 40 years ago. Third time lucky.

Allira Mon 10-Feb-25 20:51:57

Ilovecheese

I do hope they will be punished in the same matter as the climate change protesters if they hold up the traffic and prevent people getting to hospital appointments etc.

Ironic, given your username 😁

Of course, some cheese is imported so you should be ok.

Allira Mon 10-Feb-25 20:54:47

theworriedwell

Barleyfields

Of course it sounds good to people who don’t have much to pass on. To those who do, it represents what they have worked and saved for for decades. Of course they could have frittered it all away and have nothing much to leave, but they chose not to. Should they be penalised for that choice?

You haven't worked and paid for the appreciation on your property. Most of us after 25 years live rent free, I had a 20 year mortgage I took out at 20. I've lived rent and mortgage free for over 30 years and meanwhile the value of the house has gone up by hundreds of thousands of pounds

Good grief!

A mortgage at 20 - was that possible? Over 20 years?
And paid off by 40?

Some of us only took out a mortgage in our 30s.

theworriedwell Mon 10-Feb-25 21:04:16

I always wanted my own house and started work part-time st14 full-time at 15 and saved every penny. Bought a wreck so building society would only give me 20 years

Allira Mon 10-Feb-25 21:04:59

Women could not take out a mortgage on their own until at least 1975.
Under 21s could not take out a mortgage at that time.

You must have been on a very high salary, theworriedwell, to be able to save for a deposit and persuade a bank or building society to offer you a mortgage at 20.

Churchview Mon 10-Feb-25 21:11:13

I took out a mortgage in 1983. I was 24.
I'd worked part time jobs and saved up since I was legally allowed to work and, when I started work full time I put money aside.
The wage/house price ratio was very different then to now and you didn't need a very high salary to buy a house then.

Ironically I was a farm labourer when I bought the house.
I worked for a man who'd inherited his family farm.
His son runs it now.
Neither of them ever paid a mortgage.

M0nica Mon 10-Feb-25 21:16:59

Allira

Women could not take out a mortgage on their own until at least 1975.
Under 21s could not take out a mortgage at that time.

You must have been on a very high salary, theworriedwell, to be able to save for a deposit and persuade a bank or building society to offer you a mortgage at 20.

Possible worriedwell is one of the youngsters on GN. if she is only 60, she would have taken the mortgage out in 1985. AS to affording it, it depends where you lived. In 1968 on holiday in Northumberland we saw very nice minors cottages selling for £1,000. The following year we bought our first house on a commuter route into London and we paid £5,995

My sister took out a mortgage in her own name without a guarantor in 1977. She was 32. The house she bought was in Battersea, a starting to rise but not yet risen area, and paid about £5,000 for a 2 bed flat.

theworriedwell Mon 10-Feb-25 21:21:19

I think it was a security thing. Dad died when I was a child, mum remarried unwisely and he wrecked my dad's business and left with half of what was left of his money. So my home was important. I got married and divorced but kept my house, remarried and DH had his own house but with a bigger mortgage. My kids will pay inheritance tax but to be honest if we leave them a million and they 'only' end up with 900k they will be doing ok.

theworriedwell Mon 10-Feb-25 21:26:29

I'm 71 and got a mortgage as the building society manager had opened my first account when I was 14 and felt I was a good bet. They did have discretion. My great grandmother had a mortgage in 1920 as a widow. As I said I worked hard and didn't fritter my money away. No holidays, one coat, one pair of shoes etc never drank alcohol
It was easy moving as I could carry everyi owned in a small suitcase.

theworriedwell Mon 10-Feb-25 21:42:35

My mortgage wasid to late 1974

Namsnanny Mon 10-Feb-25 22:14:06

vegansrock

Tax the Junk Food, Fast Food, Super Processed Food giants driving obesity which costs the economy nearly £100 billion a year in obesity driven ill health.
Talk to farmers and sort out the inheritance tax so it doesn't bankrupt them and our countryside ends up being sold off to the international hedgefund managers and billionaires that already own every other bit of British assets.

(before) our countryside ends up being sold off to the international hedgefund managers and billionaires that already own every other bit of British assets

This is the true reason for KS to attack small to medium farms.

When the land is taken out of farming, it means less choice for the consumer, and more control for the food industry. More power and money to the usual suspects.

Not so cockeyed from that point of view, is it?

Curlywhirly Mon 10-Feb-25 22:37:38

We got a mortgage in 1976 - we were both 20.

Allira Mon 10-Feb-25 22:54:29

I can't imagine being so responsible at 20 😯