Next step in overriding female rights!

Thanks Rosie51.
PN asked why do I think he isn’t?
I don’t claim to think anything about him, so I decided it didn’t warrant an answer.

PoliticsNerd

Rosie51

8 billion people currently on this earth and every last one of them gestated in the body of a woman in her uterus. Not one gestated in the body of a person with a penis and testes. Does that indicate a pattern? Maybe defines two types of people? We could call them sexes. Coincidentally, or maybe not, the same system works for every other mammal. For the avoidance of doubt, clownfish which can change their sex are fish not mammals.

A very tiny percentage of people are born with a DSD (difference of sexual development) but even these are sex specific and do not in any way invalidate that there are two and only two sexes which are immutable.

Professor Robert Winston has even declared the reality of two immutable sexes on TV several times. He is regarded as a world expert, and yet PoliticsNerd you seem to prefer the reasoning of Upton?

Where did I say I "preferred" any particular view Rosie?

I suspect you're just trying to play games. Not once have you questioned Upton and his claims.

Your reply to Mollygo
PoliticsNerd
Interesting. Why do you think "he isn't"? What is it that stops this person being what they say they are?

You've studiously avoided any of my references to the superior knowledge of Robert Winston. Are you disputing the rest of my post you quoted? You really do give the impression of a science denier.

Mollygo

Where did you say you didn’t prefer any particular view PN?

It's not usually a common expectation to have someone declare a complete lack of preference. Discussions frequently involve the consideration and evaluation of different viewpoints, which doesn't necessarily require taking a side.

Could you clarify the purpose of asking that?"

The hearing for Sandie Peggie scheduled for this Friday has been cancelled according to various people on X.

Where did you say you didn’t prefer any particular view PN?

Rosie51

8 billion people currently on this earth and every last one of them gestated in the body of a woman in her uterus. Not one gestated in the body of a person with a penis and testes. Does that indicate a pattern? Maybe defines two types of people? We could call them sexes. Coincidentally, or maybe not, the same system works for every other mammal. For the avoidance of doubt, clownfish which can change their sex are fish not mammals.

A very tiny percentage of people are born with a DSD (difference of sexual development) but even these are sex specific and do not in any way invalidate that there are two and only two sexes which are immutable.

Professor Robert Winston has even declared the reality of two immutable sexes on TV several times. He is regarded as a world expert, and yet PoliticsNerd you seem to prefer the reasoning of Upton?

Where did I say I "preferred" any particular view Rosie?

Lovely isn’t it Dickens 🤬
How have things come to this?

What stops me being 6ft tall because I say I am ( I am 5, 3).
It is funny that those who constantly talk about misinformation on social media, embrace this belief system.

Iam64

eazybee

Upton is a male, biologically and in law.

What he is not is a gentleman, one who never knowingly causes offence to others..

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terfisaslur.com/

Some trans-women's social-media voices -going full-misogyny...

It makes very grim viewing, be warned. The level of violence that these TRAs fantasise about inflicting on TERFS is astonishing. And very typical of enraged men when they don't get their own way.

Quite a few mentions of what they'd like to do with their "girl-dicks" to punish women, too.

... and these men identify as women ???

PS I'm not suggesting Dr Upton thinks like this - it's separate from that case. I'm highlighting what women are really up against in this battle. And it's misogyny.

eazybee

Upton is a male, biologically and in law.

What he is not is a gentleman, one who never knowingly causes offence to others..

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GrannyGravy13

PoliticsNerd

Interesting. Why do you think "he isn't"? What is it that stops this person being what they say they are?

Biology!

Perfectly and succinctly put .

PN, what is it about him that makes you think he can fly in the face of biology and all that that entails? And what do you think gives him the right to insist that women play along with this charade on pain of prosecution?

Upton is a male, biologically and in law.

What he is not is a gentleman, one who never knowingly causes offence to others..

Wheniwasyourage

I think it makes perfect sense, Doodledog. The Labour Party needs to wake up to the problems you list and do something to help people who are suffering from this kind of unfairness to feel listened to. And then do something to make things a bit less unfair. Otherwise, as you say, the likes of Reform will seem much more appealing.

Thanks for the kind comments.

I agree that the problems need to be addressed, and I hope they will be, but there is a lot of mismanagement to undo before that can happen, and the government is up against hostile media, a febrile global situation and a lack of money.

It worries me that people are moving towards parties like Reform, but doesn't really surprise me. We have another 4 years for Labour to turn things round - it's a huge task given the circumstances mentioned above - but I really hope they make it.

Another post in support of Doodledog’s

I have no issues with men who want to live as women and dress as women but it doesn't make them women. This fetish these types have where women have to join in by watching them undress or allowing them to watch us undress is quite perverted.

Doodledog your post makes perfect sense and isvery true. .

GrannyGravy13

PoliticsNerd

Interesting. Why do you think "he isn't"? What is it that stops this person being what they say they are?

Biology!

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Doodledog your post was perfectly clear and I too didn't notice a single typo Everything you mention is a source of resentment for those affected and is a perfectly natural human reaction. It really does need addressing.

8 billion people currently on this earth and every last one of them gestated in the body of a woman in her uterus. Not one gestated in the body of a person with a penis and testes. Does that indicate a pattern? Maybe defines two types of people? We could call them sexes. Coincidentally, or maybe not, the same system works for every other mammal. For the avoidance of doubt, clownfish which can change their sex are fish not mammals.

A very tiny percentage of people are born with a DSD (difference of sexual development) but even these are sex specific and do not in any way invalidate that there are two and only two sexes which are immutable.

Professor Robert Winston has even declared the reality of two immutable sexes on TV several times. He is regarded as a world expert, and yet PoliticsNerd you seem to prefer the reasoning of Upton?

Sorry! That was to Mollygo. I just came back in and the tablet was open where I left it so I didn't see the new posts.

PoliticsNerd

Interesting. Why do you think "he isn't"? What is it that stops this person being what they say they are?

Biology!

Interesting. Why do you think "he isn't"? What is it that stops this person being what they say they are?

Doodledog

I wish we had an edit button. There are numerous typos and mistakes in my post, but I hope it makes sense.

... it makes perfect sense.

And I didn't notice any typos - that's because the brain is logical, it knows how a sentence is constructed and sees the sense before the mind notices the typos!

I think it makes perfect sense, Doodledog. The Labour Party needs to wake up to the problems you list and do something to help people who are suffering from this kind of unfairness to feel listened to. And then do something to make things a bit less unfair. Otherwise, as you say, the likes of Reform will seem much more appealing.

I wish we had an edit button. There are numerous typos and mistakes in my post, but I hope it makes sense.