Darren Beattie calls for sterilization of “low-IQ trash,” - Trump regime appointee

MaizieD

^I do agree that certain criminals should be sterilised.^

Elon Musk, perhaps?

(though I wouldn't be surprised to find that there are gallons of his sperm tucked away in a sperm bank somewhere. After all, the world could do with more of his genius)

Oh yuck, MaizieD !! 🤮
The very thought!

... but Trump loves the poorly-educated -he said so.

I saw an interview with a man who'd voted for Trump - clearly not well educated, but earnest and 'genuine' (by that I mean he wasn't a smart-a*se).

He voted for Trump because of tariffs, he believed this would bring back industry to the American workers. He didn't understand the mechanism of tariffs, and when it was pointed out to him by an import / export guy taking part in the interview, he was shocked and surprised... but gracious in the admittance of his lack of knowledge.

There must be many like him, who will live to rue the day they voted for Trump, and I genuinely feel sorry for him, and them. All they wanted was a better life than they have now, and got carried away by the hubris.

Trump doesn't love the poorly-educated - he likes "smart" people (and people who don't get captured - remember that?).

"He's a smart guy, I know him well / like him a lot" - these are phrases he's used about various leaders of repressive regimes. Including Putin.

Some very unpleasant individuals are crawling out of the woodwork aren't they.

nanna8

I think Trump is streetsmart and quite intelligent. Which makes some of the things he does even more scary really. I would be interested to hear from some of his supporters but they would perhaps be too browbeaten by the comments to come on here. He could do so much good with all his vast network of supporters , it is a shame he seems to be locked into forcing disadvantaged people to become even more disadvantaged.

I cannot even begin to understand why you think Trump is street smart and quite intelligent?

I’d suggest he’s the least intelligent world leader n history and one of the most dangerous.

IMO he has no redeeming factors, not even one.

When it became possible to identify Down's babies in the womb my mother was very keen on the idea of terminating the pregnancies in the hope that the mutation could be bred out and Down's would disappear. I don't know how much further she would have taken it. What would she have thought if she had lived to see her two autistic grandchildren. Of course she grew up in the 30s, when Eugenics was seen as the way to improve society. She doesn't seem to have linked the eugenics she approved of with the actions of the Nazis.

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Trump against abortion? I don't know, but I wonder how many of his partners went on to have abortions? We will never know.

petra

Allira

Indigo8

I find the ethos of eugenics chilling. I thought it had finally been discredited as a science after WWII.

The idea that somehow supposedly 'superior' humans could decide that what they consider to be 'inferior' human beings belong to some sort of subspecies and therefore have no rights is deeply repulsive.

Sweden was practising eugenics until the 1970s.

Too many people forget what those nice Scandinavian countries get up to.

Yes, many people are unaware of their dark recent past petra.

One traveller's view:
Just a week in Sweden was enough time for us to see why this Nordic nation is one of the most highly regarded societies on the planet. Their collective focus on social equality, human rights, sustainability, and public services make the country one of the best places to start and raise a family. Not only do the Swedes boast some of the highest life expectancies in the developed world, but their citizens are some of the happiest and their children are of the most educated.
And everyone is just so nice

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keepingquiet Fri 14-Feb-25 09:28:04

I don't know why you should ask that, keepingquiet.
Goady and very unpleasant indeed.

"The mission of women is to be beautiful and to bring children into the world." Goebbels.

For the German woman her "world is her husband, her family, her children, and her home". Hitler

The Nazi party also set up social and legal mechanisms to keep women away from employment and into domestic life. Women's educational and professional choices were restricted, with the entire areas of law, civil service, and the upper end of medicine becoming exclusively male domains.

We can see all this happening right in front of our eyes.

That's one messed up human being...and I'm not talking about the son/daughter/ child person!

M0nica

He already has. One of his sons is a now transwoman. He has disowned her and cut her out of his will.

Now that’s what I call karma

He already has. One of his sons is a now transwoman. He has disowned her and cut her out of his will.

I think Musk may have some surprises ahead when his children grow up...

This all ties up with the belief in “pronatalsim”
When Musk brought his son to the meeting with Trump it wasn’t just “I’m a regular guy” but

“Musk, a father of 12, is an avowed pronatalist, or someone who believes declining population rates are a major concern and has committed to work to remedy this by having as many children as possible.

He sees part of his life’s work as repopulating the planet with as many children — and exceptional children at that — as possible.”

“Pronatalism requires that people who are able to carry pregnancies — mostly women — be pregnant for large periods of time. These pregnancies can have a major impact on women’s participation in the workforce and economic mobility.
“Part of the language around pronatalism is language about gender roles, and the expectations of pronatalism is very much a kind of kickback on educated women and their declining birth rates,” Lovett said. “It’s remaking the notion of women as mothers — in this case done with a kind of co-option of the caretaking role.

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MaizieD

^I do agree that certain criminals should be sterilised.^

Elon Musk, perhaps?

(though I wouldn't be surprised to find that there are gallons of his sperm tucked away in a sperm bank somewhere. After all, the world could do with more of his genius)

😂😂

I do agree that certain criminals should be sterilised.

Elon Musk, perhaps?

(though I wouldn't be surprised to find that there are gallons of his sperm tucked away in a sperm bank somewhere. After all, the world could do with more of his genius)

I'm surprised that anyone would have the guts to actually say something like this. It's straight out of a Nazi handbook! The elimination of inferiors was a big part of their doctrine.

I do agree that certain criminals should be sterilised.

Allira

Indigo8

I find the ethos of eugenics chilling. I thought it had finally been discredited as a science after WWII.

The idea that somehow supposedly 'superior' humans could decide that what they consider to be 'inferior' human beings belong to some sort of subspecies and therefore have no rights is deeply repulsive.

Sweden was practising eugenics until the 1970s.

Are you saying that was a good thing?

Now we abort on demand.

I thought Trump was against abortion?

If my old dad who fought against the rise of fascism in the Second World War were alive today he would definitely never believe that someone like Trump and his cronies could ever rise to power. Is an obscene slap in the face to all those who fought an alongside him, many of whom lost their lives.
Lest we forget!
What a joke!

nanna8

I think Trump is streetsmart and quite intelligent. Which makes some of the things he does even more scary really. I would be interested to hear from some of his supporters but they would perhaps be too browbeaten by the comments to come on here. He could do so much good with all his vast network of supporters , it is a shame he seems to be locked into forcing disadvantaged people to become even more disadvantaged.

I cannot believe that anyone could write this and truly believe it.

You could say of every tyrant and dictator out that He could do so much good with all his vast network of supporters , it is a shame he seems to be locked into forcing disadvantaged people to become even more disadvantaged.

But what makes them what they are is that that is the last thing they want to do or intend to do.

Trump is not locked into forcing disadvantaged people to become even more disadvantaged. he has chosen to disadvantage the disadvantaged as a policy because he holds in utter contempt people who are not prepared to walk on the faces of those who he considers 'losers' - like his nephews profoundly disabled son, the poor, the ill, those who do not share the dog eat dog attitude that he has.

It is apologists like you nanna8 that bring these vile men in power. It is how the fascists reached power in 1930s Europe.

Some years ago Iworked for an organisation trying to help an elderly couple being abused by a violent son, still living at home. Everyone was involved, police, social services, health services, an ambulance team had witnessed the elderly man being hit by his son. But we were all useless because the couple, terrified as they were of their son, would not see him for what he was and refused to support any charges against him and were convinced throughout that all he needed was a bit of counselling to turn him into the perfect loving son. Nothing would change their minds. I do not know the outcome, my organisation could do nothing so withdrew from the case.

Trump apologists remind me of this couple and Trump reminds me of their son. In this case, I am, like the majority of people on this planet, we must sit it out, even though it kill us.

Allira

Indigo8

I find the ethos of eugenics chilling. I thought it had finally been discredited as a science after WWII.

The idea that somehow supposedly 'superior' humans could decide that what they consider to be 'inferior' human beings belong to some sort of subspecies and therefore have no rights is deeply repulsive.

Sweden was practising eugenics until the 1970s.

Too many people forget what those nice Scandinavian countries get up to.

Who among us GNs is still naive enough to believe that Trump won't do what he has said he would?

nanna8

I think Trump is streetsmart and quite intelligent. Which makes some of the things he does even more scary really. I would be interested to hear from some of his supporters but they would perhaps be too browbeaten by the comments to come on here. He could do so much good with all his vast network of supporters , it is a shame he seems to be locked into forcing disadvantaged people to become even more disadvantaged.

He called the current free trade agreement one of the worst deals he’d ever seen and asked who’d signed it.

He did in his first term. Called it the best deal.

Be careful what you wish fur indeed. And now this genie is out of the bottle it isn’t only the US that will suffer but many other countries around the world.

Many people voted based upon their prejudices and fears, such is the way with populism, without realising that an administration so hell bent upon absurdly draconian policies would also ‘come for them’.