Rachel Reeve’s CV

MayBee70

Don’t forget that it was Tulip that worked tirelessly to get Nazanin released after Johnson’s stupidity resulted in her being imprisoned. When Labour do things on the sort of scale that the previous government did I will get worried. As it stands I still believe that Starmer is an honourable man and politician. He dealt with Tulip swiftly did he not? Would it really look good to the rest of the world if we change chancellor? We need a period of stability. Keir in opposition made a point of only attacking the government when he felt it was necessary and not if it went against the best interest of the country. I think we’re all guilty of giving people or political parties more leeway if they are our favoured ones and I don’t pretend to be any different. If I lose faith in the PM I will say so but, at this moment in time I think he’s dealt with several unforeseen events very well. I admit to being protective of the PM because I don’t think he deserves the constant criticism that he is getting.

I didn't think I would ever see the words "Kier" and "best interests of the country" in the same sentence

MayBee70

Well, there were people on gransnet, when Trump was elected, saying that we need someone like him here.

Discussed on other threads.
Nothing to do with the present discussion at all.

MayBee70

Allira

There are not just two camps.

Having reservations about Starmer, Reeves et al does not mean people are automatically eulogising about people like Farage, Tice, Trump and Vance.

Some people are.

You are using deflection to divert the focus of the thread.

Or, as DM taught me: 'Two wrongs do not make a right.'

Well, there were people on gransnet, when Trump was elected, saying that we need someone like him here.

Allira
There are not just two camps.

Having reservations about Starmer, Reeves et al does not mean people are automatically eulogising about people like Farage, Tice, Trump and Vance.

MayBee70
Some people are.

Who?

MayBee70

Yes I do. Especially when I see previous PM’s swanning around in America supporting Trump. And people on here eulogising about people like Farage, Tice, Trump and Vance.

You are changing the subject.
This is about Rachel Reeves enhancing her CV, feeding inaccurate information about a highly relevant matter and failing to be as transparent as her position requires.

Those people who are treasurers in any organisation have to be totally honest and above suspicion. More so than any other position ,including the PM. No doubt in my mind this woman doesn’t meet the criteria and should go. She is not fit for the job.

MayBee70

Don’t forget that it was Tulip that worked tirelessly to get Nazanin released after Johnson’s stupidity resulted in her being imprisoned. When Labour do things on the sort of scale that the previous government did I will get worried. As it stands I still believe that Starmer is an honourable man and politician. He dealt with Tulip swiftly did he not? Would it really look good to the rest of the world if we change chancellor? We need a period of stability. Keir in opposition made a point of only attacking the government when he felt it was necessary and not if it went against the best interest of the country. I think we’re all guilty of giving people or political parties more leeway if they are our favoured ones and I don’t pretend to be any different. If I lose faith in the PM I will say so but, at this moment in time I think he’s dealt with several unforeseen events very well. I admit to being protective of the PM because I don’t think he deserves the constant criticism that he is getting.

And that’s your prerogative…

Allira

There are not just two camps.

Having reservations about Starmer, Reeves et al does not mean people are automatically eulogising about people like Farage, Tice, Trump and Vance.

Some people are.

There are not just two camps.

Having reservations about Starmer, Reeves et al does not mean people are automatically eulogising about people like Farage, Tice, Trump and Vance.

Yes I do. Especially when I see previous PM’s swanning around in America supporting Trump. And people on here eulogising about people like Farage, Tice, Trump and Vance.

MayBee, do you really think Starmer is an honourable man after the freebies came to light? I would call him a downright hypocrite. Every time I see him, Reeves and Rayner I still wonder if they are wearing clothes bought by someone else.

I think we’re all guilty of giving people or political parties more leeway if they are our favoured ones and I don’t pretend to be any different.

Of course that's true, dyed-in-the-wool supporters of a party may well close their eyes to any faults but is it any reason to throw insults at others who might criticise the government of the day, saying their worries have no foundation and are only made because they are snobs?
Or to deride other posters who may have a different viewpoint, however much we may dislike their beliefs?

Many of us voted for this Government, hoping for more integrity but feel let down time and again.

Keir Starmer deserves all the criticism he's facing.

Look at the flak Nicola Sturgeon has faced for example. If Rachel Reeves has been embroidering the facts about her work history, exaggerating her experience, then what other facts is she embroidering?

They should all face the same consequences.

Don’t forget that it was Tulip that worked tirelessly to get Nazanin released after Johnson’s stupidity resulted in her being imprisoned. When Labour do things on the sort of scale that the previous government did I will get worried. As it stands I still believe that Starmer is an honourable man and politician. He dealt with Tulip swiftly did he not? Would it really look good to the rest of the world if we change chancellor? We need a period of stability. Keir in opposition made a point of only attacking the government when he felt it was necessary and not if it went against the best interest of the country. I think we’re all guilty of giving people or political parties more leeway if they are our favoured ones and I don’t pretend to be any different. If I lose faith in the PM I will say so but, at this moment in time I think he’s dealt with several unforeseen events very well. I admit to being protective of the PM because I don’t think he deserves the constant criticism that he is getting.

RosieandherMaw

Maybee you are defending the indefensible.
Nobody is sniping at the Labour government per se but (unfortunately again) questioning a political party which chose to highlight probity, honesty, and reliability as pillars of the election campaign.
We trusted them, then little by little the cracks started to appear. IMO Starmer has to free himself from the taint of corruption, sleaze, fiddling, contempt for the electorate, dodgy connections (Tulip Siddiq) and now a Chancellor who has been less than economical with the truth - or downright careless.
We saw enough dodgy dealing under the Conservatives vacant you not understand how let down the electorate feel to learn that each side is as bad as the other?
No, it’s not the government as such I am losing faith in, but the individuals who claimed to be honest and open and now show their feet of clay.

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RosieandherMaw

Maybee you are defending the indefensible.
Nobody is sniping at the Labour government per se but (unfortunately again) questioning a political party which chose to highlight probity, honesty, and reliability as pillars of the election campaign.
We trusted them, then little by little the cracks started to appear. IMO Starmer has to free himself from the taint of corruption, sleaze, fiddling, contempt for the electorate, dodgy connections (Tulip Siddiq) and now a Chancellor who has been less than economical with the truth - or downright careless.
We saw enough dodgy dealing under the Conservatives vacant you not understand how let down the electorate feel to learn that each side is as bad as the other?
No, it’s not the government as such I am losing faith in, but the individuals who claimed to be honest and open and now show their feet of clay.

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MayBee70

I think there’s a snobbishness about a lot of the criticism if I’m being honest ( which will be denied of course but I’ve wanted to say it for quite a while now).

That’s a load of tosh and if you think your near-hysterical defence of RR’s lies and exaggerations is because her critics are snobbish, all I can say is that you are wearing rose tinted glasses.

Maybee you are defending the indefensible.
Nobody is sniping at the Labour government per se but (unfortunately again) questioning a political party which chose to highlight probity, honesty, and reliability as pillars of the election campaign.
We trusted them, then little by little the cracks started to appear. IMO Starmer has to free himself from the taint of corruption, sleaze, fiddling, contempt for the electorate, dodgy connections (Tulip Siddiq) and now a Chancellor who has been less than economical with the truth - or downright careless.
We saw enough dodgy dealing under the Conservatives vacant you not understand how let down the electorate feel to learn that each side is as bad as the other?
No, it’s not the government as such I am losing faith in, but the individuals who claimed to be honest and open and now show their feet of clay.

MayBee70

These endless posts are purely an attempt to undermine the government who, whatever anyone thinks of them are in power because the previous government were unfit to govern. We’re trying to rebuild our shattered relationship with Europe so we need is a bit of stability, especially with what’s happening in America. Now isn’t the time to constantly snipe at Labour.

No, I don't think so Maybee.

We hoped for better and so far feel let down.

MayBee70

RosieandherMaw

Today 13:31MayBee70

I’m more interested in how she performs as chancellor to be honest. I think there is a history of government ministers making false claims about their qualifications
Absolutely - unemployment up, productivity down, £against the € and the $ down, inflation up - by their deeds shall they be judged

So what do you want? An election? A Conservative government?

What do I want?

What was promised - that’s all.
Oh and full and frank disclosure please.

Not specific to Reeves, but any politician who lies about something easily disproved will surely lie about things less easily exposed?

I never lied on any CV or job application. Why would I, I thought the unvarnished me was good enough!

Mollygo I do not think any government should be exempt from sniping criticism, it is part and parcel of the job!

GrannyGravy13

MayBee70 the only reason this thread is here is due to the fact that RR has lied.

If MP’s do not lie, do not take freebies , do not send offensive WhatsApp messages etc., then us as the electorate would be able to concentrate on the positives of their policies…

Yes but sniping at the government is what happens when they give cause for sniping.

Not sniping at anything we thought was wrong didn’t apply to the last government. Why would it?
Should we have sat still and said nothing?

I doubt the not sniping rule will apply to future governments either.

Should we not criticise/snipe at them for taking freebies, lying on CV’s etc, etc just because it’s Labour?

I’m not sure how that can be justified.