Syrian asylum seeker arrested after boy, 14, killed and four injured in Austria stabbing.

Freya5

Cossy

JenniferEccles

Only a few days ago, J.D Vance warned of the dangers Europe faces if it continues with the madness of allowing uncontrolled mass migration.

It took an American to point out what voters across the continent have known for years, yet governments still steadfastly refused to take action.

We don’t have “mass uncontrolled immigration”

Oh yes we do. Every day it's happening.

Yes it is, we do have mass uncontrolled immigration!

CariadAgain

Been reminded this morning just how far do we go in letting our way of life be attacked in much "smaller" ways - courtesy of a very longstanding life drawing class being forced to change one way or another - because of "safeguarding concerns" that have been brought up - 30 years after it started.

They were told either:
- the model gets dressed (errr that would mean it wouldnt be life-drawing any longer)
- or it's swopped to an evening (it's pensioners that go to it in the main and so only 2 attenders were okay about doing that).

Fortunately for them there is a Quaker Meeting House up the road - and so there is no problem, as they just moved to that venue instead and the original venue will dip out and will have to lose the hire money they were being paid for it. So life can continue as per normal.

Its the smaller ways that matter just as much, they are our ways.

Cossy

JenniferEccles

Only a few days ago, J.D Vance warned of the dangers Europe faces if it continues with the madness of allowing uncontrolled mass migration.

It took an American to point out what voters across the continent have known for years, yet governments still steadfastly refused to take action.

We don’t have “mass uncontrolled immigration”

Oh yes we do. Every day it's happening.

I think it would have been picked up by the national press regardless of the ethnicity of the attacker. This was a random murder of a young boy.

Appalling and I can’t imagine how his parents and family cope. Likewise with the killing of a mother and 2 yet old daughter in Germany. Just heartbreaking.

Been reminded this morning just how far do we go in letting our way of life be attacked in much "smaller" ways - courtesy of a very longstanding life drawing class being forced to change one way or another - because of "safeguarding concerns" that have been brought up - 30 years after it started.

They were told either:
- the model gets dressed (errr that would mean it wouldnt be life-drawing any longer)
- or it's swopped to an evening (it's pensioners that go to it in the main and so only 2 attenders were okay about doing that).

Fortunately for them there is a Quaker Meeting House up the road - and so there is no problem, as they just moved to that venue instead and the original venue will dip out and will have to lose the hire money they were being paid for it. So life can continue as per normal.

Apologies for the confusion Churchview I posted my comment on the wrong thread. Duh! I’ll ask GNHQ to delete it.

Where is Ursula von der Leyen talking about an EU army FriedGreenTomatoes2?

Sago

CariadAgain

People may be interested to see a YouTube video that has just been published:

It's on Tousi TV channel on YouTube (ie an Iranian guy living in Britain and that has acquired British nationality and that has integrated into Britain).

"BREAKING: Islamists attack multiple European capitals"

What and where?

1. Look on YouTube videos
2. Input "Tousi TV channel"
3. Input title of video I gave, ie "BREAKING etc etc".

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Mahyar Tousi is a one man band who has set up his own U tube channel and is on X. He's hostile to Muslims and his politics as I said before echo Tommy Robinson. He has a number of videos on U tube. He calls himself a "media personality".

Cariadagain please explain.

Don't get too alarmed - its an anti immigrant propaganda video with nothing new on, and when you read down the comments and such statements as "Free Tommy Robinson" you know what sort of territory you are in.

Jesus! You said “Breaking Islamists attack multiple European capitals”

I have a son in Stockholm and one London!

I have been beside myself!

Sago

According to the BBC the Syrian male responsible for the Austrian killing was “ motivated by Islamic state”.

I think that means he is a terrorist.

Yes, the police have reported now that he had Islamic posters in his room, apparently only recently. One wonders what had happened to make this change, given that we also have a Syrian who helped take him down and who was clearly settling into his new life?

CariadAgain

People may be interested to see a YouTube video that has just been published:

It's on Tousi TV channel on YouTube (ie an Iranian guy living in Britain and that has acquired British nationality and that has integrated into Britain).

"BREAKING: Islamists attack multiple European capitals"

What and where?

People may be interested to see a YouTube video that has just been published:

It's on Tousi TV channel on YouTube (ie an Iranian guy living in Britain and that has acquired British nationality and that has integrated into Britain).

"BREAKING: Islamists attack multiple European capitals"

According to the BBC the Syrian male responsible for the Austrian killing was “ motivated by Islamic state”.

I think that means he is a terrorist.

CariadAgain

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I imagine the two men got into an altercation because of hot head views/assisted by alcohol, maybe even drugs were involved. They clashed - one on one. A fight.

The woman who died from being shot in the head was a victim of a crime of passion. Her ex attacked her.

These killings (Austria, Germany) are targeted attacks on unknown individuals (several) by people with a hatred in general for Western values, aided and abetted by reading material on line - as the Austrian Police said - to encourage random slaughtering.

Sorry but I cannot conflate the two instances with what is happening right now in Europe. It’s like comparing apples with pears.

Agree.

We do need to differentiate imo between attacks on "individuals" - as compared to attacks on our "Society/way of life".

The only plus side to this is that it's another Syrian that did what he could to sort out the situation and drove his car at the maniac and was trying to help us. I am certainly noticing that over the last few years it's become very clear that some from the Middle East are assimilating into our societies and appreciating us having modern/liberal societies. Then there's the "others" - the ones that are attacking us and our values. I'm someone personally that would see an area in one of our bigger cities where I could barely spot us and our way of life and, if anyone tried to tell me to dress/act outside "our" way I'd ramp it up a notch and, even at my age, deliberately walk through in short skirts/low necklines and eating outdoors at any time of year - because it's OUR country and OUR way of life in Britain and I won't have anyone else try and alter me to some other countries ways.

It started a while back and one of the first instances I can recall is loads of young Swedes going out for a typical night out in Sweden (it was outdoors and think it was a New Years Eve celebration?) and it was Swedish women that were attacked and Middle Eastern men that did the attacking and I honestly think that was done to try and stop our Western women living normal lives (ie having our social lives) at that event.

So yep....some are taking part in our culture/living pretty much in our way and respecting our Western countries - but others are attacking us and/or trying to force their way of life onto us in our countries. Added being the worry as we have seen more "modern" Middle Eastern countries being thrown back to the Stone Ages - Iran and Afghanistan for instance. Yep.....I do believe there are people that want to force their ways onto us.

You have put my worries so well, about trying to change our freedoms and culture. Thank you for your post 👏👏👏👏👏

Churchview - 👏👏👏

woodenspoon

Forgot to add, of course asylum is big business for some here: support workers, interpreters, housing and legal advice, charities. Of course they want that gravy train to keep rolling on.

I don't think you can have any idea about the nature of this work or the people who devote their time to it.

My cousin worked as a social worker with asylum seekers for many years. He left a much more lucrative professional career to do so as he had a calling to help. It was grueling, upsetting work and nothing like the business class, expense lunch life he had before.

He's retired now but still works in the field, now in a voluntary capacity giving up much of his time and energy to help others - often people in pretty desperate situations.

Pretty much anyone working in this field could earn more money and have a much easier, less stressful job doing something else. There's no gravy train and I wonder why you think that.

Casdon

I read a very sad report on Sky News this morning about the reaction from the Syrian man who intervened, and the response from the Syrian community in Austria (half way down the article). We shoukd not tar everybody with the same brush.
news.sky.com/story/deadly-stabbing-attack-in-austria-was-islamic-terror-incident-say-authorities-13310609

Yes: quote from article

Praise for Syrian helper

Meanwhile, a 42-year-old Syrian man helped prevent the situation from getting worse by driving towards the suspect.

The man, who worked for a food delivery company, was thanked by state governor Peter Kaiser.

"This shows how closely terrorist evil but also human good can be united in one and the same nationality," Mr Kaiser said.

Oh and you too Elegran

HPQ
Casdon
Luminance

All great points and I completely agree with you all.

How awful to politicise such terrible events.

Luminance

I think it is important to understand that the devastation that surrounds such a tragedy is separate to the understanding of how such tragedies are used to sway public opinion politically. In fact it would be rather easy to say that using the tragedy to further any cause, one against helping refugees for example, is actually less empathetic to the families involved.

I agree. In the rush to politicise these dreadful incidents, the victims sometimes get overlooked I feel. I mentioned in another thread that I did not see threads started when the white Swedish national shot down 12 migrants at a language learning centre.

these murders are all awful, but some people, in their rush to blame migration, highlight the incidents where the perpetrator is a migrant.

We have to look at why these dreadful incidents are happening, and also acknowledge that mental health services are on their knees, meaning that there are too many people on their own, battling with their mental health demons, endangering us all, irrespective of their skin colour, religion, or where they or their parents were born.

I read a very sad report on Sky News this morning about the reaction from the Syrian man who intervened, and the response from the Syrian community in Austria (half way down the article). We shoukd not tar everybody with the same brush.
news.sky.com/story/deadly-stabbing-attack-in-austria-was-islamic-terror-incident-say-authorities-13310609