“Half truths & many lies: Fact checking Kemi Badenoch”

You are correct growstuff but there are some important nuances.

Prior to the British Nationality Act 1981, anyone born in the UK was automatically a British citizen. It seems Badenoch slipped in by a year. This could not happen now. We no longer have citizenship simply by birth in the UK.

Isn't it strange on here, that the vehement indignation and faux shock horror that is shown towards Conservative MPs is overwhelming, but towards Labour MPs who, apart from Rachels somewhat dubious CV, are by no means faultless, even charmingly referring to elderly voters as hags! the silence is deafening!

Lovetopaint037

Thanks for all this information. When she stood up the other day to have a go at Rachel Reeves in the H of C I thought “hang on surely you have a lot to answer for”as I recall various mistakes or errors of judgement before she became leader. There were certainly questions about her. Will have to ask dh as he remembers all these kind of details.

I agree, not sure RR has covered herself in glory.

Her “inaccurate” CV though, is not on the scale of KB blatant lies.

I’m hoping, tbh, both of them a replaced and soon.

We need a strong opposition, please god not another stream of Tory leaders and in-fighting, doesn’t help anyone.

Badenoch's working class LizzieDrip!

She said so herself because she worked in McDonald's briefly as a student and gained her credentials.

Yes, we knew all about her background and her economy with the truth ages ago so how she ever became Tory leader is bewildering. You'd think they'd have learnt by past mistakes.
Her days as leader are numbered.

You'd think, too, that Reeves would learn from the mistakes of others and correct the "mistakes" on her CV and her career history. We'd have more respect for her if she did thst.

Jaberwok

Isn't it strange on here, that the vehement indignation and faux shock horror that is shown towards Conservative MPs is overwhelming, but towards Labour MPs who, apart from Rachels somewhat dubious CV, are by no means faultless, even charmingly referring to elderly voters as hags! the silence is deafening!

Who called us hags?

To be fair, Badenoch only got the job after James Cleverley’s supporters couldn’t muster the brain power to vote for the candidate they allegedly favoured.

Former MP Paul Goodman now Baron Goodman of Wycombe:

There’s always a chance that somebody can rise to the occasion and become a statesman when we least expect it. But in both these instances, these are people who have got flawed personalities. Kemi is divisive and aggressive and wrong about everything, and Jenrick* is manipulative – and can be manipulated*. They will be dancing on the **ing tables at Labour HQ.

I suspect Reeves from Accounts is on her way out. Richard Murphy (founder of the Tax Justice Network) talks lot of sense and thinks her fellow Cabinet members have had enough of her.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAfcBpbWxTA

WhatsApp.messages from Labour Councillors referred to the hag vote, while also charmingly hoping we hags would have 'croaked' before the next election!

PoliticsNerd

You are correct growstuff but there are some important nuances.

Prior to the British Nationality Act 1981, anyone born in the UK was automatically a British citizen. It seems Badenoch slipped in by a year. This could not happen now. We no longer have citizenship simply by birth in the UK.

I agree that we don't have citizenship by birthplace now, but Badenoch and one of her siblings were eligible - her parents were intelligent people and must have known that.

escaped

If Badenoch is lying, then, fair enough, she too deserves a severe rollicking on here.
I can't be bothered to check out much about her, because she is pretty ineffectual as Leader of the Opposition, and as such, I don't think she will last very long anyway.

She's my MP, which is why I know so much about her. She isn't even a good constituency MP, which is why she lost her huge majority at the last general election and almost lost the seat to a young, inexperienced Labour candidate, whom nobody had ever heard of.

Allira
”Badenoch's working class LizzieDrip!”

Oh yes, of course she is - thanks for reminding me Allira😉

I’d completely forgotten that working in MacDonalds for a few weeks makes you working class - silly me🙈

LizzieDrip

Allira
”Badenoch's working class LizzieDrip!”

Oh yes, of course she is - thanks for reminding me Allira😉

I’d completely forgotten that working in MacDonalds for a few weeks makes you working class - silly me🙈

Probably splitting hairs here but, aren’t all of us who work as opposed to living off of investments or mummy and daddy working class ?

A lie is a lie is a lie as far as I am concerned.

Missing something out, is lying by omission.

Anyone in the public eye must be aware that since the internet has become mainstream, almost everything is now in the public domain.

Jaberwok

WhatsApp.messages from Labour Councillors referred to the hag vote, while also charmingly hoping we hags would have 'croaked' before the next election!

Thanks for the reference.

Something I truly dislike about our brave new world is that I can never tell where fake news is coming from, much less decide how much of it is fake.

The people concerned have been suspended, which would tell one that it's true.

growstuff

As I've written before, she is my MP and I've known since she was selected that her claimed background was a sham. I would like to add to the above that after she had finished her A levels in the UK, she did a private "apprenticeship", which was actually an expensive networking exercise for young people aiming for elite careers. She's now deleted all mention of her "gap year" from social media accounts. Her family was/is a prominent family in Lagos.

Yes, and as I understand it, by coming back here to the country of her birth at 16, she was able to fulfil the 3 years residency rule to qualify for UK student rates rather than overseas.

She's a Tory - what do you expect?

Anyone in the public eye must be aware that since the internet has become mainstream, almost everything is now in the public domain

I agree, GG13, and this is why the situation with Rachel Reeves angers me; prior to her appointment, all checks should have been made that all records were true and consistent. Her appointment as chancellor surely did not hinge on whether she had 5.25 or 10 years within the Bank of England. The party wonks have failed here.

As to Ms Badenoch, she is a very poor Leader of the Opposition which is an important position. It is not just about being senior in the group hoping to take control after the next election, it is about being head of His Majesty's Opposition, responsible for questioning, challenging, scrutinising the existing party in power. As such, with her ill prepared, bad tempered speeches and outbursts, Ms Badenoch is not doing her job.

She's a politician - what do you expect?

escaped

If Badenoch is lying, then, fair enough, she too deserves a severe rollicking on here.
I can't be bothered to check out much about her, because she is pretty ineffectual as Leader of the Opposition, and as such, I don't think she will last very long anyway.

You encapsulated exactly my feelings on her with your post escaped! Thank you.

Jaberwok

WhatsApp.messages from Labour Councillors referred to the hag vote, while also charmingly hoping we hags would have 'croaked' before the next election!

Which council?

Jaberwok

The people concerned have been suspended, which would tell one that it's true.

The person concerned was sacked by Keir Starmer the day after this was exposed. He sounded a nasty piece of work but they come in all parties. Labour acted quickly and efficiently.

Perhaps check the facts next time.

Oliver Ryan MP has been suspended from Labour Party also.

Along with Gwynne they are still MP’s unless their constituency decide to deselect them.

Sometimes you realise just how complex democracy is GrannyGravy13. I do wonder if that is partially what turns people to the person who offers to to take it all off their hands.

HousePlantQueen

growstuff

As I've written before, she is my MP and I've known since she was selected that her claimed background was a sham. I would like to add to the above that after she had finished her A levels in the UK, she did a private "apprenticeship", which was actually an expensive networking exercise for young people aiming for elite careers. She's now deleted all mention of her "gap year" from social media accounts. Her family was/is a prominent family in Lagos.

Yes, and as I understand it, by coming back here to the country of her birth at 16, she was able to fulfil the 3 years residency rule to qualify for UK student rates rather than overseas.

She was indeed! She was in the sixth form for two years, followed by a year doing an "apprenticeship". She wouldn't have paid student fees at the time she did her degree because she qualified as a home student and fees hadn't been introduced.

Jaberwok

WhatsApp.messages from Labour Councillors referred to the hag vote, while also charmingly hoping we hags would have 'croaked' before the next election!

Oh yes, that lot of charmers!