Who DO (Trump and Vance) think they are?

Churchview

GrannyGravy13

Claremont

The USA has announced they will be lifting financial and commercial embargo on Russia.

Source please?

There is nothing on BBC or mainstream media, I have just looked.

This is on the BBC now GrannyGravy13

10:07

More now from Moscow, where Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has been briefing reporters on Tuesday's US-Russian talks in Saudi Arabia.

Peskov is quoted by Russia's state-run Ria Novosti news agency as saying that the talks will be aimed at "restoring the entire complex of Russian-American relations, and about preparing possible negotiations on Ukraine".

So Russian spokesperson is basically jumping the gun by announcing what Russia thinks will happen at the talks in Saudi Arabia this week.

Nothing as yet has been agreed.

GrannyGravy13

Claremont

The USA has announced they will be lifting financial and commercial embargo on Russia.

Source please?

There is nothing on BBC or mainstream media, I have just looked.

This is on the BBC now GrannyGravy13

10:07

More now from Moscow, where Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has been briefing reporters on Tuesday's US-Russian talks in Saudi Arabia.

Peskov is quoted by Russia's state-run Ria Novosti news agency as saying that the talks will be aimed at "restoring the entire complex of Russian-American relations, and about preparing possible negotiations on Ukraine".

David49

nanna8

I sometimes wonder if the USA had not entered the war in WW2 if the Nazis would now be in power.

Undoubtedly, the came into WW1 late to end that too

This reminds me of a line from (I think) Not the Nine O'clock News.

"America are trying to make up for being late for the last two world wars by being the first to start the next one."

America only joined in the fighting when their own were attacked.

fancythat

woodenspoon

Starmer has announced he will put British troops into Ukraine if a deal is reached. Why are we always first to commit our troops and resources? Other nations are reluctant apparently, Germany being one.

Personally, and I am prepared to be blasted for this, putting troops in, after peace, is hardly the same as before. In my book.

You’re quite right. I believe it’s some sort of ‘peace keeping’ force. However, many are urging caution. A retired Head of the Army says we don’t have resources to do it. Could be all words and bluster from Starmer, desperate to be seen as leading the European response.

In the run up to the election Trump trumpeted his intention to represent the interests of the workers of America.

Since he came to office, unprecedented numbers of workers have lost their jobs owing to "new regulations" and "restructuring". This has been mainly as a result of letting Elon Musk overturn employee protection legislation.

woodenspoon

Starmer has announced he will put British troops into Ukraine if a deal is reached. Why are we always first to commit our troops and resources? Other nations are reluctant apparently, Germany being one.

Personally, and I am prepared to be blasted for this, putting troops in, after peace, is hardly the same as before. In my book.

Claremont

The USA has announced they will be lifting financial and commercial embargo on Russia.

Source please?

There is nothing on BBC or mainstream media, I have just looked.

The USA has announced they will be lifting financial and commercial embargo on Russia.

Grantanow

Trump and Vance are democratically elected politicians. The present situation is talks about talks between Putin and Trump. I expect Ukraine will be at the table when real talks begin.

Associated Press and several other press agencies are reporting that President Zelensky has arrived in UAE.

He is in close proximity to the Russian American negotiations due to happen this week.

For those interested, Starmer has a piece in todays Telegraph.

Starmer has announced he will put British troops into Ukraine if a deal is reached. Why are we always first to commit our troops and resources? Other nations are reluctant apparently, Germany being one.

Trump and Vance are democratically elected politicians. The present situation is talks about talks between Putin and Trump. I expect Ukraine will be at the table when real talks begin.

nanna8

I sometimes wonder if the USA had not entered the war in WW2 if the Nazis would now be in power.

Undoubtedly, the came into WW1 late to end that too

I sometimes wonder if the USA had not entered the war in WW2 if the Nazis would now be in power.

David49

fancythat

All this does make Europe look totally inadequate.

Is that because no European country is prepared to do anything alone?

Europe IS totally inadequate, for 70 yrs it has hung on to the US coat tails instead of standing on its own feet, a toddler shouting mummy, mummy don’t leave me.

Trump is doing Europe a favour forcing them to work together and be responsible for their own problems.

I now feel "down a notch" as a European.
My eyes have been opened.

mum2three

I'm glad that Trump was voted into office but he does need reminding that he rules the USA not the whole world. America is a very powerful country but his actions are likely to inflame resentment and hostility.
For the time being, Mr Trump, just stick to sorting out America's mess!

Completely agree.
You would think he had enough to sort out in the US. He knows that this 4 year stint as President is his last and he wants to arrange the world to his liking. When I read that he wants to remove all Palestinians from Gaza to make it into a jetsetters paradise then it confirmed to me what an unhinged man he is. Who else would even dream that one up?
Power, money and delusion make a dangerous cocktail.

fancythat

All this does make Europe look totally inadequate.

Is that because no European country is prepared to do anything alone?

Europe IS totally inadequate, for 70 yrs it has hung on to the US coat tails instead of standing on its own feet, a toddler shouting mummy, mummy don’t leave me.

Trump is doing Europe a favour forcing them to work together and be responsible for their own problems.

Furret I share your anxiety about Mr Putin's next moves, should Ukraine be handed over to him.
Where might he like next: Poland perhaps, or Hungary, or Finland?
The world is his oyster.

All this does make Europe look totally inadequate.

Is that because no European country is prepared to do anything alone?

They think they are Gods. The sheer arrogance of the pair and Vance is the same in a boot licking kind of way.
I feel so sorry for Zelinski, he is a true hero and leader of men. They want to humiliate him as they know they have not even a bit of his courage, he will be remembered for that, his wife and family and friends love him. No one could say that of the other three. Like all dictators they will fall..

mum2three

I'm glad that Trump was voted into office but he does need reminding that he rules the USA not the whole world. America is a very powerful country but his actions are likely to inflame resentment and hostility.
For the time being, Mr Trump, just stick to sorting out America's mess!

By doing this I suppose he is sorting out USA.

Money. Trump is like previous Presidents who have wanted Europe to defend itself. Why should USA pay to defend Europe?

news.sky.com/story/amp/netanyahu-signals-moving-ahead-with-trumps-gaza-plan-as-israel-receives-unblocked-us-shipment-of-heavy-bombs-13311209

And now this.
Ethnic cleansing it is then.

I'm glad that Trump was voted into office but he does need reminding that he rules the USA not the whole world. America is a very powerful country but his actions are likely to inflame resentment and hostility.
For the time being, Mr Trump, just stick to sorting out America's mess!

Trump and Putin will carve up the Ukraine for their own benefit, of course. And when Trump has finished throwing Ukraine under a bus he'll start making moves to occupy Greenland, assisted by Putin.

Babs03

Well China has praised Trump for entering into dialogue with Putin, so looks like we have a new axis of evil folks, the US, Russia, and China.
Trump did promise a new world order.

Never in my life would I have thought this would happen. It makes me physically sick to my stomach.