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USA dealings with Russia and Farage

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mokryna Tue 18-Feb-25 16:31:36

Farage was one of the principal people to persuade people to vote Brexit, splitting UK with the EU. He cosied up to the USA and supported Trump’s election. Additionally, Farage is hoping to have money from the USA to back his party in the UK . Considering, what Trump has done by having his team talk to Russia and suggesting to cut up Ukraine as well as taking the rights of ‘rare earth’. What is Farage doing with his US friends? I haven’t heard anything from him yet. What would you hope he will do?

eazybee Thu 20-Feb-25 10:26:19

Yes, Petra's post was offensive.
I heard Tony Abbott being interviewed at the weekend and he seemed to have a good grasp of British and American affairs, far more so than Trump about Europe and the rest of the world.
Please continue posting, nanna8

25Avalon Thu 20-Feb-25 10:02:45

nanna8

Oh thanks for that petra I really appreciate that only British people are allowed to comment on here and I think it might be time to go. I am shocked and surprised at your xenophobia , frankly. I will not reply to any more of your posts.

That was a bit offensive wasn’t it Nanna8. But if she is to be true to herself it means Petra shouldn’t comment on other countries apart from her own.

nanna8 Thu 20-Feb-25 09:35:21

Oh thanks for that petra I really appreciate that only British people are allowed to comment on here and I think it might be time to go. I am shocked and surprised at your xenophobia , frankly. I will not reply to any more of your posts.

love0c Thu 20-Feb-25 09:35:19

IMO Trump is trying to start conversation regarding Ukraine. We did not expect this war to go on for years. But it has. Something has got to happen and change. It can not go on as it is. EU Countries pouring millions of pounds into Ukraine and no change. Countries are already starting to 'talk'. Good on Ttrump.

MaizieD Thu 20-Feb-25 09:35:10

Who says most Britons dislike or detest Trump? The polls do, that’s who.
I don’t make things up.

Churchview Thu 20-Feb-25 09:29:28

I strongly believe that if the UK government condones Trump's stance on Ukraine in any way the population will not tolerate it. Certain factions of society might admire Trumps, but we are a just people who will not tolerate liars and Trump is a liar.

Starmer and Badenoch have both condemned Trump.
The Daily Mail comments section is an indication that even the readers of the right leaning press are appalled by Trump this week.

petra Thu 20-Feb-25 08:16:32

nanna8

I think Farage will follow Trump but he won’t necessarily be upfront about it. In the end the UK will also follow Trump, they haven’t got much choice.

You appear to think that because you were born in this country ( how many years ago) and comment on uk sites, read uk newspapers that you know us
From your post above it’s very clear that you know nothing about us.

madeleine45 Thu 20-Feb-25 08:12:23

Oh , have just had an idea. I should get some nice invitation cards printed and invite Trump, Farage, Putin, Assad, Johnson and a few others who spring to mind to come here to a special conference . They can all come and (sorry what was the name of that village where the big sink hole has opened up?) what a lovely thought that they could all be swallowed up in one great moment!! Ah well I can dream cant it?

25Avalon Thu 20-Feb-25 08:09:54

Who says most Britons detest or dislike Trump. It seems to me that is not true. A lot admire his stand on immigration, borders, gender, transwomen in sport and would like to see that here. What is concerning for Europe and UK is his policy on trade tariffs and this latest intervention with Ukraine although he wants to keep out of Europe. Yes we all want to see the war ended but not this way. For once Boris Johnstone and Starmer agree about something.

MaizieD Thu 20-Feb-25 07:52:34

nanna8

I think Farage will follow Trump but he won’t necessarily be upfront about it. In the end the UK will also follow Trump, they haven’t got much choice.

There’s no point in the UK ‘following Trump’ and we do have a choice. There is Europe right there on our doorstep where most of its leaders are at least sane.

Most Brits detest or dislike Trump. It would be a further nail in Labour’s coffin if they took us too close to Trump.

mokryna Thu 20-Feb-25 07:41:36

nanna8 No there is no choice because of Brexit. Now Trump writing on Truth Social, ‘This War is far more important to Europe than it is to us, we have a big, beautiful Ocean as separation.’ That same ocean is between the USA and the UK.

nanna8 Thu 20-Feb-25 05:33:03

I think Farage will follow Trump but he won’t necessarily be upfront about it. In the end the UK will also follow Trump, they haven’t got much choice.

mae13 Thu 20-Feb-25 03:02:20

mokryna

If only Babs03.
I was hoping, as he wanted to lead the UK and had Trump’s ear, he would hop in a plane to whisper some good for Ukraine in that orifice.

Faragè has been batted aside by President Trump and his chief lackey, Musk. Naive Nigel is just one of an army of "useful fools" who once worshipped at The Temple of Trump, hoping to share the limelight.
Now he's simply surplus to requirements, rather like the voters who put Trump in the White House.

25Avalon Wed 19-Feb-25 23:22:13

Trump is unpredictable and anyone who sups with him needs a long spoon.

Claremont Wed 19-Feb-25 23:14:58

From the Guardian

'For there is no such thing as a free lunch, even at Mar-a-Lago: being part of the court of Trump means sooner or later feeling obliged to defend the indefensible, which inevitably comes at a price back home. For all those on the British right who have basked in his favour, let this be a moment of reckoning.'

but they have all gone quiet! Not surprisingly. So which will it be?

25Avalon Wed 19-Feb-25 23:01:35

Delete ain't

Claremont Wed 19-Feb-25 23:01:19

Listening to Newsnight- we are truly in a very precarious situation, where just anything could happen.

25Avalon Wed 19-Feb-25 23:00:39

Reform are not in power and may never be. A lot of people say they will vote Reform as a means of expressing their dissatisfaction with Labour and the Tories but it doesn’t mean they actually will vote for them in a General Election which in any case isn’t going to be on the cards for a few years. In opinion polls I say I’ll vote Reform but ain’t doubt I will. This is an awful situation with Ukraine. Boris Johnston had a landslide victory to get Brexit done but he has supported Ukraine all the way. Will Farage do the same?

Claremont Wed 19-Feb-25 22:46:28

What we need to know about Reform, and fast- is in case of a real conflict/war even- will they support Trump and Putin, against Europe.

We deserve an answer.

MayBee70 Wed 19-Feb-25 22:40:37

nanna8

I’d guess Farage won’t get involved with the Ukraine situation whilst he is busy building support in the UK. He is savvy enough to keep out of that one, I’m sure.

He and his ilk are involved in ways that most people don’t know about. He’s like an iceberg, there’s a lot more going on beneath the surface.

nanna8 Wed 19-Feb-25 22:24:50

I’d guess Farage won’t get involved with the Ukraine situation whilst he is busy building support in the UK. He is savvy enough to keep out of that one, I’m sure.

mokryna Wed 19-Feb-25 22:12:21

No, and the Ukraine situation is so sad.

Wyllow3 Wed 19-Feb-25 21:48:03

I haven't heard any Reform views on Ukraine.
Anyone?

Claremont Wed 19-Feb-25 17:39:05

Not going well at all

TUC exposes his voting record- supporters in Clacton not happy

x.com/The_TUC/status/1888892648242418102?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1888892648242418102%7Ctwgr%5Ef0579a8f613e8b48d1bf4ef7e5248c94dc5f2f8c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thepoke.com%2F2025%2F02%2F12%2Ftuc-share-farages-voting-record-with-clacton-constituents-and-torch-their-view-of-him%2F

Cossy Wed 19-Feb-25 17:31:26

Churchview

Farage can stop campaigning now - he's got the job and there won't be another election for a while.

His job now is to represent his constituents.

Is he being successful at that? Is anyone praising him for the good he's doing for Clacton?

Not that I’ve heard!