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USA dealings with Russia and Farage

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mokryna Tue 18-Feb-25 16:31:36

Farage was one of the principal people to persuade people to vote Brexit, splitting UK with the EU. He cosied up to the USA and supported Trump’s election. Additionally, Farage is hoping to have money from the USA to back his party in the UK . Considering, what Trump has done by having his team talk to Russia and suggesting to cut up Ukraine as well as taking the rights of ‘rare earth’. What is Farage doing with his US friends? I haven’t heard anything from him yet. What would you hope he will do?

Churchview Tue 18-Feb-25 17:05:57

According to the Financial Times Farage has spent today making an appearance at the 'right-leaning Alliance for Responsible Citizenship 'conference. He's been talking to Jordan Peterson on the subject of how important it is to increase the UK birth rate. Farage proposed "very, very big cultural changes to persuade Britons to have children".

So basically he's parroting his pals Trump and Musk.

During their conversation Jordan Peterson described divorcees, single mothers and gay people as “deviations from the norm”.

What would you hope he will do?

Retire quietly.

growstuff Tue 18-Feb-25 17:20:54

How is he going to persuade white (presumably not brown, black or those with "foreign" ancestry) to reproduce? Especially those who are married and presumably guaranteed to stay married until their children are adults. Are the fathers of children whose parents aren't married also "deviations from the norm"? Are you we turning into a Handmaidens' Republic?

Babs03 Tue 18-Feb-25 17:23:06

I hope Farage goes away, very far away, perhaps the US to be with best bud Trump, am sure that Trump has by now forgotten who Nige is but he might need someone to carry his golf clubs

mum2three Tue 18-Feb-25 17:29:06

So many people seem to be missing the point. Supporting Reform UK is not about Farage or Richard Tice or anyone else. It's about the public having a way to show their unhappiness with the current political parties. Our country is being destroyed and we want the government to realise that and start putting Britain and British people first.

mokryna Tue 18-Feb-25 17:40:08

If only Babs03.
I was hoping, as he wanted to lead the UK and had Trump’s ear, he would hop in a plane to whisper some good for Ukraine in that orifice.

Casdon Tue 18-Feb-25 17:46:07

mum2three

So many people seem to be missing the point. Supporting Reform UK is not about Farage or Richard Tice or anyone else. It's about the public having a way to show their unhappiness with the current political parties. Our country is being destroyed and we want the government to realise that and start putting Britain and British people first.

If Farage left, support for Reform would sink into an abyss though, so it must be down to reasons other than what you suggest.

imaround Tue 18-Feb-25 17:51:23

Babs03

I hope Farage goes away, very far away, perhaps the US to be with best bud Trump, am sure that Trump has by now forgotten who Nige is but he might need someone to carry his golf clubs

Don't make me be cross. 🤣

Just kidding. Send him over at this point. We have nothing left to lose.

mokryna Tue 18-Feb-25 17:56:44

What are people saying around you, iamaround, about him?

Rowantree Tue 18-Feb-25 18:02:50

mum2three It sounds as if you'd welcome a Trump figure here, to make Britain Great Again....

ayse Tue 18-Feb-25 18:03:17

mum2three

So many people seem to be missing the point. Supporting Reform UK is not about Farage or Richard Tice or anyone else. It's about the public having a way to show their unhappiness with the current political parties. Our country is being destroyed and we want the government to realise that and start putting Britain and British people first.

That is so similar to Trump’s platform, Make America Great Again. He has sent many Mexicans back to Mexico so farmers don’t have the workers to harvest their goods. USA businesses on the USA border with Canada have no business. Health care is problematic and unemployment is rising.

Do you honestly want to see an American health care system here where every time you go to the GP even if you have medical insurance? I could go on and on about this but I’m not going to.

We are too good at complaining and not active enough in our politics.

imaround Tue 18-Feb-25 18:09:48

Nothing mokryna to be honest. Farage is fairly low in Americans perspective right now since we are dealing with Musk and Trump.

BevSec Tue 18-Feb-25 18:11:23

mum2three

So many people seem to be missing the point. Supporting Reform UK is not about Farage or Richard Tice or anyone else. It's about the public having a way to show their unhappiness with the current political parties. Our country is being destroyed and we want the government to realise that and start putting Britain and British people first.

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

Babs03 Tue 18-Feb-25 18:11:50

ayse

mum2three

So many people seem to be missing the point. Supporting Reform UK is not about Farage or Richard Tice or anyone else. It's about the public having a way to show their unhappiness with the current political parties. Our country is being destroyed and we want the government to realise that and start putting Britain and British people first.

That is so similar to Trump’s platform, Make America Great Again. He has sent many Mexicans back to Mexico so farmers don’t have the workers to harvest their goods. USA businesses on the USA border with Canada have no business. Health care is problematic and unemployment is rising.

Do you honestly want to see an American health care system here where every time you go to the GP even if you have medical insurance? I could go on and on about this but I’m not going to.

We are too good at complaining and not active enough in our politics.

Very true.
Is no good simply jumping on the populist band wagon because the snake oil salesman driving it tells people what they want to hear. I could take the platform and swear that I will send all illegal immigrants back, there will be no more boats, or WOKEY types, and I will make Britain great again. See, I just said it, now vote for me.
As a nation we are rubbish at taking to the streets and demanding change, we used to be good at it in the 60s/70s, and it led to parliament legislating on things that mattered, passing the sex discrimination act, the race discrimination act and legalising homosexuality. So we can change things, but its not good sitting here moaning about it, and at the same time callling all demonstrations a waste of time peopled by hippes and students.
We shouldn't ever trust politicians. We should never stop putting pressure on them to do what they are paid to do which is to represent us.

Caro41 Tue 18-Feb-25 19:32:15

Reform U.K. is only one of many extreme right-wing pockets springing up all over Europe . This happened in the 1930s when we had our own , homegrown, Oswald Mosely .
The situation now is very similar to preWW2 .

Claremont Tue 18-Feb-25 19:39:47

mum2three

So many people seem to be missing the point. Supporting Reform UK is not about Farage or Richard Tice or anyone else. It's about the public having a way to show their unhappiness with the current political parties. Our country is being destroyed and we want the government to realise that and start putting Britain and British people first.

so you want to scupper the country, and throw it under the Putin and Trump bus- to 'show your unhappiness.

Well, I am sure this will improve things loads. Sure:

Babs03 Tue 18-Feb-25 20:09:20

Caro41

Reform U.K. is only one of many extreme right-wing pockets springing up all over Europe . This happened in the 1930s when we had our own , homegrown, Oswald Mosely .
The situation now is very similar to preWW2 .

Sadly I agree, and is infuriating that people like my old dad who fought to rid the world of facism must be spinning in his grave.

mokryna Tue 18-Feb-25 21:11:55

imaround

Nothing mokryna to be honest. Farage is fairly low in Americans perspective right now since we are dealing with Musk and Trump.

Sorry, imaround I meant about Trump and Musk, although I do see you put Musk before Tump.

Wyllow3 Tue 18-Feb-25 21:23:57

Churchview

According to the Financial Times Farage has spent today making an appearance at the 'right-leaning Alliance for Responsible Citizenship 'conference. He's been talking to Jordan Peterson on the subject of how important it is to increase the UK birth rate. Farage proposed "very, very big cultural changes to persuade Britons to have children".

So basically he's parroting his pals Trump and Musk.

During their conversation Jordan Peterson described divorcees, single mothers and gay people as “deviations from the norm”.

What would you hope he will do?

Retire quietly.

Telling us we should have more children (as long as we are white of course) and conversations with someone describing divorcees, single mothers and gay people as “deviations from the norm”?

Are you really OK with this BevSec and Mum2three?

growstuff Tue 18-Feb-25 21:30:07

mum2three

So many people seem to be missing the point. Supporting Reform UK is not about Farage or Richard Tice or anyone else. It's about the public having a way to show their unhappiness with the current political parties. Our country is being destroyed and we want the government to realise that and start putting Britain and British people first.

You must know the saying about the devil you know.

growstuff Tue 18-Feb-25 21:31:41

imaround

Babs03

I hope Farage goes away, very far away, perhaps the US to be with best bud Trump, am sure that Trump has by now forgotten who Nige is but he might need someone to carry his golf clubs

Don't make me be cross. 🤣

Just kidding. Send him over at this point. We have nothing left to lose.

How would Farage be eligible for an American visa?

mokryna Wed 19-Feb-25 08:44:38

Américain money will get Farage voted in. The food barriers will come down allowing cheap US imports, there will break up of the NHS permitting American drug manufacturers to raise the price of medical treatment. Farage will get his visa.
Didn’t Trump mention somewhere he was thinking of the UK becoming the 52nd state, after Canada?

NotSpaghetti Wed 19-Feb-25 08:58:01

It's about the public having a way to show their unhappiness with the current political parties.

...I thought we did that with Brexit. 🤔

Claremont Wed 19-Feb-25 09:25:59

growstuff

imaround

Babs03

I hope Farage goes away, very far away, perhaps the US to be with best bud Trump, am sure that Trump has by now forgotten who Nige is but he might need someone to carry his golf clubs

Don't make me be cross. 🤣

Just kidding. Send him over at this point. We have nothing left to lose.

How would Farage be eligible for an American visa?

Friends in High places! Musk was an illegal immigrant- and Ivanka got her Visa by a very strange route (exceptional talent and innovation!) - and her family got family renunification visas very quickly.

Visgir1 Wed 19-Feb-25 11:10:39

Farage is in Canada, telling them the Brits must have more babies.
Wonder if he ever goes to Clacton?