USA dealings with Russia and Farage

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Carole Cadwalladr @carolecadwalla

Polite reminder. Trump & Brexit are not 2 different things. They are the same thing. Same companies. Same data. Same Facebook. Same Russians. Same Cambridge Analytica. Same Robert Mercer. Same Steve Bannon. Same Breitbart. Same Alexander Nix. Same Donald Trump. Same Nigel Farage. What was not known, until February, was the relationship between all these figures and the Leave campaign. That was when Andy Wigmore, Leave. EU's communications director, revealed to this paper that Farage was a close friend of both Bannon and Mercer. He said that the Leave campaign was a "petri dish" for the Trump campaign "We shared a lot of information because what they were trying to do and what we were trying to do had massive parallels."

You just can't separate the two. Brexit was engineered from outside the UK- all to begin the weakening and 'divide and rule' in Europe- in preparation for what is happening now.

love0c

Cossy I quite agree with you. Dangerous people come in all colours and creeds. In short you lock your door because you have no idea who is out there. Hence, then why would you leave your country wide open to 'all' when you have idea who they are?

I have no idea who most of the people who have been born and brought up in the UK are and some we know are terrorists.
Do you believe that all immigrants are here to join them?

love0c

I only popped back on in here just for the laugh. I actually struggle to believe that some of you believe the clap trap you post!

Right back at you 😀

The pot should not call the kettle black love0c.

IOMGran Oh dear , oh dear!

Cossy I quite agree with you. Dangerous people come in all colours and creeds. In short you lock your door because you have no idea who is out there. Hence, then why would you leave your country wide open to 'all' when you have idea who they are?

I only popped back on in here just for the laugh. I actually struggle to believe that some of you believe the clap trap you post!

I get the sense that the US is becoming a rogue state, an enemy rather than an ally, more in line with Russia and China, and let’s not forget that Iran is an ally of Russia and China, so will the Supreme leader become a buddy of Trump. Afterall Iran has oil and rich minerals. If Trump just wants to make lucrative business deals Iran must look very appealing.

25Avalon

Not at all. We don’t need to agree with all of someone’s policy. What the heck Trump is doing in respect of Ukraine I don’t think many in this country agree with. I might approve of some of Trump’’s policies but certainly not this and I am sure I am not alone. Farage has to make up his own mind but although he might feel bigged up he is small fry to Trump.

Can you tell me which of Trumps policies you agree with?

Not at all. We don’t need to agree with all of someone’s policy. What the heck Trump is doing in respect of Ukraine I don’t think many in this country agree with. I might approve of some of Trump’’s policies but certainly not this and I am sure I am not alone. Farage has to make up his own mind but although he might feel bigged up he is small fry to Trump.

In fact that have all gone very quiet everywhere, not just GN.
Have they all received silence orders from above?

His fervent GN supporters have all gone VERY quiet.

Claremont

Personally, I'd like to hear from our GN Farage fans and financial supporters, who they would support in case of an international conflict because of Ukraine. There are two, and only two, clear choices.

Work and cooperate with EU as a strong alliance

or

with Trump and Putin.

At least be honest.

Yes, this is what the thread was set up for. And a crucial question given Trump's policies and the well being of the UK including action against tariffs as well as security.

Is Farage going to continue to support Trump come what may?

Personally, I'd like to hear from our GN Farage fans and financial supporters, who they would support in case of an international conflict because of Ukraine. There are two, and only two, clear choices.

Work and cooperate with EU as a strong alliance

or

with Trump and Putin.

At least be honest.

Cossy, I do feel using the term .johnny Foreigner is actually rather offensive to those of us who are concerned about illegal immigration, its quite superior in tone. Are you taking the moral high ground over those of us you regard as knuckle scrapping racists?

For at least the second, if not third time BevSec, he was born in Cardiff. He is a British citizen, and has been since birth. I’m not arguing with you, because it is a fact, not a matter of debate.

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To be fair, the Conservatives really aren't behind Trump on this one - good to see space between them and Reform.

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What Farage actually said was “Let’s be clear, Zelenskyy is not a dictator but it’s only right and proper that Ukrainians have a timeline for elections,”

Here's what Conservative shadow defence secretary James Cartlidge had to say about Farage's comments.

"Why does Farage think Ukraine should have a 'timetable' for elections? They're not going through local govt reform - they're in an existential war & don't know when it will end. And does he think Putin should have a timetable for free & fair elections? He actually is a dictator."

MaggsMcG

Od be more interested in what our current PM and his party are doing. I hope to goodness he/they are not toadying up to Trump. The man's a disaster and a danger to the rest of the free World. I'm literally scared of what he's trying to do.

If you read/listened/ watched the news you would know what our government is doing.
Give it a go, you might learn something.

Farage has said, 'Zalinski is not a dictator'. Putin is the one who is at fault and started this war. Farage has therefore stated he does not agree with Trump!

Gizzy48

MaizieD

Don't you realise you just made an extremely racist comment yourself? I lock my door at night, not for fear of immigrants, who have more to lose by committing crimes, but for fear of nefarious locals.

Yours is the same attitude as those who say "So you'd let one of them come and live in your spare room, would you? Ha, thought not!" without ever thinking whether they'd let a homeless British person into their own spare room.

I beg your pardon?

I merely asked what locking doors at night has to do with immigration.