Trump: All American or Closet Communist?

ronib

458 million people were apparently ruled under the British Empire in 1922. Point of information.

That was over a hundred years ago. I believe perhaps naively that people learn lessons from history- at least the intelligent ones do. Stupid people just repeat the mistakes...

ronib

458 million people were apparently ruled under the British Empire in 1922. Point of information.

Yes, and many of feel very ashamed of this country’s past, however that doesn’t in any way negate the actions of Trump, Musk & Putin.

458 million people were apparently ruled under the British Empire in 1922. Point of information.

Who is 'we'- the British Empire which never really ruled the whole world?

I admire Starmer for his backing of Zelensky and this is the right thing to do.

Who are we to 'stop' anyone is a silly question.

The British Empire ended. So will Trumps and Putins.

By remembering that old cliche:- "For evil to triumph, it is necessary only that good people do nothing."

I have altered that slightly from "good men" to "good people", to include both halves of the population - 50% of whom would be permanently pregnant and tied to the kitchen sink under Trumpian ideology.

No one is suggesting we rule, or want to rule the world. Thst doesn’t mean we abdicate moral responsibility. Get the popcorn out and watch as the world loses its way under the influence of a crooked failed business man - and whoever is pulling his strings

Casdon how are we going to rein in Trump? Who are we to stop anyone? We no longer rule the world….

He's not a closet communist. He's just an unscrupulous man with an eye to the main chance. He will get into bed with anyone who he thinks might boost his ego and get him noticed.

foxie48

The deal whilst selling the Ukrainians down the river that Trump talks about is carving up Ukraine's mineral resources whilst selling the Ukrainians down the river! Trump is totally without morals.

My thoughts exactly Foxie48 Trump is a disgrace, I expect many who voted for him are regretting their decision.
I wonder if his party will stay loyal to him or at some point will they decide enough is enough.

Direct question to you ronib. Do you think that because the UK has done terrible things to other countries previously, we should stand back and let Trump do exactly what he wants?

Just remind me what GB has stolen… gold, salt and ivory and countless artefacts. Leading by example!

The deal whilst selling the Ukrainians down the river that Trump talks about is carving up Ukraine's mineral resources whilst selling the Ukrainians down the river! Trump is totally without morals.

I won’t be visiting the USA

I remember Glasnost and Perestroika in Russia and the fall Berlin Wall which lead to the reunification of Germany.

I know that since 2000, when Putin first came to power, they have not reverted to Communism but I gather that Glasnost is well and truly a thing of the past.

As I mentioned before, I visited Russia under Communist rule and later post Glasnost in the 1990s. I shall not be visiting again.

MaizieD

Indigo8

Trump a commie? I have heard it all now. Tell that to the marines.

Russia isn't communist, either.

Trump and Putin are two of a kind, but Putin has more brain...

The difference is that Trump just thinks he's clever

Putin knows he is.

If there is one word that looms largest in Trump's vocabulary it's 'DEAL'. Everything can be fixed with a 'deal'. Ukraine should have 'done a deal' with Putin. What he and his envoys are now working on is how a 'deal' can be arranged, never mind whether the people of Ukraine who are fighting for their nationhood, agree or not. The 'deal' will obviously be made between Trump and Putin

Indigo8

MaizieD I know full well that Russia in no longer a Communist country.

I visited Moscow and Leningrad in 1979 and I visited Moscow and St Petersberg in 1993 so I am well aware of the fact.

Apologies. I wasn't really commenting on your post, it was just a hook on which to reiterate a point which some recent posters seem to be unaware of.

It's interesting that in 2019 the MSM and the BBC managed to persuade that Corbyn had Russian links and was therefore a communist despite the fact that London was awash with Russian Oligarchs who couldn't have made such obscene amounts of money in the USSR..

I derail, though...

According to a poll conducted by the DM ( I know, I know) the majority of Americans who took part think in simple terms Zelensky good, Putin bad. Trump may have misjudged this one.

Skye17

MaizieD I agree. Surely Russia has not been communist since the Berlin wall fell.

Thank God that someone else has noticed.

I was beginning to wonder if I were alone in a parallel universe 😱

Marmin

I suspect he is just thinking about the next deal. Making money at any cost to anyone else seems to be his motive. Comparisons with Hitler are superficial at best.

I agree. Trump has never hidden the fact that he likes to make money. Lots of it. He loves money it's a great thing. A wonderful thing, even.
He's never hidden that from anyone.
I don't think he has any other way of seeing the world and let's face it, other people love it too!
Add to that he's deeply narcissistic so can not think of anyone or anything outside himself, and constantly seeks affirmation from others to hide a very deep seated insecurity. He knows that other vain people can be used.
Putin is a very vain man, and so they are well matched. They will inevitably destroy themselves. The problem is who will they destroy on their way?
Putin kills his enemies in very obvious ways and then lies. Trump lies too. They will just keeping pretending until one of them wins out, or we all fall with them.
This is nothing to do with political ideaology but everything to do with greed. Trump's greed for money and Putin's greed for power.
Europe needs to get real on this. The citizens of the US and Russia need to act too, otherwise we are all doomed.

MaizieD I know full well that Russia in no longer a Communist country.

I visited Moscow and Leningrad in 1979 and I visited Moscow and St Petersberg in 1993 so I am well aware of the fact.

Donald Trump is concerned only with the self-promotion of Donald Trump and he pitches his appeal to the lowest common denominator to achieve his goals, for example ending the war in Ukraine at a stroke by appeasing Putin to show his supporters how much money he has saved them.

Americans have little interest in world affairs unless they are directly affected, witness entry into World War One and Two. I doubt if Trump has read much history to inform his thinking, if he thinks at all. His speeches are a disgrace to any President.
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MaizieD I agree. Surely Russia has not been communist since the Berlin wall fell.

Visgir1

The thing is Trump is a loose cannon.
Putin knew what he had with Biden and could see which way he would jump. Trump is totally unpredictable.

I don't believe he's under Putin's influence, I think Putin doesn't trust him, Trump won't bend to him.
He will give him him "lip service" and he do what he wants regardless.

I think that’s a very good point Visgirl. This is why other leaders fear him because they are not quite sure what he will do.

Casdon

If that’s his game plan it’s not working though GrannyGravy13.
www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-approval-rating-slips-americans-worry-about-economy-2025-02-19/

I’m beginning to think he doesn’t really have a game plan at all, and that all he is doing is expecting the world to pander to his ego. He’s lost the plot, he even declared himself King yesterday.

He really has lost the plot, he, like Musk, are on the biggest ego and power trip imaginable, they are very very dangerous men and will drag us all into their mad, power fuelled games.