Trump: All American or Closet Communist?

What century are you living in? Russia is not a communist state. Russian communism died in the 1980s.

Russia purports to be a multiparty democratic state, although it is in fact a dictatorship.

Russia has a ‘mixed economy’ in the same way that many other countries have a mix of public and private sectors.

This continual portrayal of Russia as communist is complete nonsense.

Having watched five minutes of Trump’s address/boasting last night, we came to the conclusion that we couldn’t understand a word he said and it was excruciating to listen. Trump’s style is full on American and we don’t know what he’s talking about most of the time.
A president for the American people and definitely not speaking to the UK. Their choice as we have ours ….. which we need to respect for the time being. Until we know what he’s talking about at least.

Closet Communist ? That’s the best one I’ve heard . Fascist maybe, dictatorial definitely. Putin and Trump definitely ‘get’ each other - cast from the same mould, like it or not. I would have said Starmer is more Marxist if anyone.

nanna8

Closet Communist ? That’s the best one I’ve heard . Fascist maybe, dictatorial definitely. Putin and Trump definitely ‘get’ each other - cast from the same mould, like it or not. I would have said Starmer is more Marxist if anyone.

Since he became Leader, Starmer has spent a great deal of time and effort moving the Labour party from a leftist to centrist position.
I would be really interested to know where you think you can now see examples of actual Marxist theory in action?

I think Trump would negotiate with the Devil himself if he thought it necessary to promote MAGA/ Donald Trump.

In 2019, he told a reporter from Russian TV (Russia 24 - state owned), that he thought Putin was a "great guy" then waffled a bit about a 'good meeting' and trade between the two 'great countries', ending with "he is a terrific person". Not to mention "talented"... and a "good person".

If it suits, he can find 'good' in any leader -whatever political system he presides over (Russia of course is now a 'democracy') so I'm sure he could find redeeming qualities in anyone - dictator, oligarch, megalomaniac - a minor consideration if that person can make Trump look good on the world stage.

"a minor consideration if that person can make Trump look good on the world stage".
Shouldn't that be "a minor consideration if Trump thinks that person can make Trump look good on the world stage".
I don't think many other people think it does do they?

There is nothing wrong with Trump that a diagnosis of mental frailty and a personality disorder would not explain.

Unfortunately at the moment the inmate is running the assylum.

If I believed in reincarnation, when you listen to Donald Trump, the name that springs to mind is Adolf Hitler. Trump seems to think that he only has to say something and that gives him the right to walk into someone elses country and take it over, overturn any laws that he doesnt like, behave in a way that with anyone else would have them certified and removed immediately to an asylum. The thought that anyone would have voted him in after seeing what he behaves like , just makes me wonder where their brains are - well if they have any!!

Mamie

"a minor consideration if that person can make Trump look good on the world stage".
Shouldn't that be "a minor consideration if Trump thinks that person can make Trump look good on the world stage".
I don't think many other people think it does do they?

I think you knew that's what I meant.

And, yes - I do think some admire him - he has a small fanbase on GN. It might even be a larger one, not everyone makes their views known.

They might well see him as a 'peace-maker'.

Honestly, I think POTUS Trump is using the Ukraine - Russia war as a distraction from the problems in the USA.

If he shouts loud enough he is banking on his devoted followers believing that he is a great leader, who other governments respect and take notice of…

Trump a commie? I have heard it all now. Tell that to the marines.

If that’s his game plan it’s not working though GrannyGravy13.
www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-approval-rating-slips-americans-worry-about-economy-2025-02-19/

I’m beginning to think he doesn’t really have a game plan at all, and that all he is doing is expecting the world to pander to his ego. He’s lost the plot, he even declared himself King yesterday.

I read the other day, but can't remember who said it, that when Trump meets Putin he is like a small boy looking up to his all time super hero- in a very obvious and ridiculous manner.

I suspect he is just thinking about the next deal. Making money at any cost to anyone else seems to be his motive. Comparisons with Hitler are superficial at best.

Trump doesn't have a game plan. He's exactly like Farage in that he exists purely for the campaigning/disrupting/rubbishing everyone else. When it comes to knuckling down, taking responsibility and actually getting things done he disappears into the ether. (See Farage who was never in the EU parliament and is never in Clacton). What is Trump himself actually doing? What has he personally done other than reinstate plastic straws so he can have his sucky drink? He's lolled at Mar a laro, spouted lies and provided a backdrop to his Elon Musk and his young son.

The only game plan in the US at the moment is coming from Musk, a James Bond villain style world domination plan loosely based on Project 25. When Trump said he knew nothing about Project 25 I think it might have been the truest thing he's ever said. He is a useful idiot, manipulated by people who are driven purely by greedy.

Trump wouldn’t know how to be a commie anymore than he knows how to be POTUS,
or even how to be a decent human being.
Putin is an organ grinder with a very useful monkey.

The thing is Trump is a loose cannon.
Putin knew what he had with Biden and could see which way he would jump. Trump is totally unpredictable.

I don't believe he's under Putin's influence, I think Putin doesn't trust him, Trump won't bend to him.
He will give him him "lip service" and he do what he wants regardless.

Indigo8

Trump a commie? I have heard it all now. Tell that to the marines.

Russia isn't communist, either.

Trump and Putin are two of a kind, but Putin has more brain...

Casdon

If that’s his game plan it’s not working though GrannyGravy13.
www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-approval-rating-slips-americans-worry-about-economy-2025-02-19/

I’m beginning to think he doesn’t really have a game plan at all, and that all he is doing is expecting the world to pander to his ego. He’s lost the plot, he even declared himself King yesterday.

He really has lost the plot, he, like Musk, are on the biggest ego and power trip imaginable, they are very very dangerous men and will drag us all into their mad, power fuelled games.

Visgir1

The thing is Trump is a loose cannon.
Putin knew what he had with Biden and could see which way he would jump. Trump is totally unpredictable.

I don't believe he's under Putin's influence, I think Putin doesn't trust him, Trump won't bend to him.
He will give him him "lip service" and he do what he wants regardless.

I think that’s a very good point Visgirl. This is why other leaders fear him because they are not quite sure what he will do.

MaizieD I agree. Surely Russia has not been communist since the Berlin wall fell.

Donald Trump is concerned only with the self-promotion of Donald Trump and he pitches his appeal to the lowest common denominator to achieve his goals, for example ending the war in Ukraine at a stroke by appeasing Putin to show his supporters how much money he has saved them.

Americans have little interest in world affairs unless they are directly affected, witness entry into World War One and Two. I doubt if Trump has read much history to inform his thinking, if he thinks at all. His speeches are a disgrace to any President.
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MaizieD I know full well that Russia in no longer a Communist country.

I visited Moscow and Leningrad in 1979 and I visited Moscow and St Petersberg in 1993 so I am well aware of the fact.

Marmin

I suspect he is just thinking about the next deal. Making money at any cost to anyone else seems to be his motive. Comparisons with Hitler are superficial at best.

I agree. Trump has never hidden the fact that he likes to make money. Lots of it. He loves money it's a great thing. A wonderful thing, even.
He's never hidden that from anyone.
I don't think he has any other way of seeing the world and let's face it, other people love it too!
Add to that he's deeply narcissistic so can not think of anyone or anything outside himself, and constantly seeks affirmation from others to hide a very deep seated insecurity. He knows that other vain people can be used.
Putin is a very vain man, and so they are well matched. They will inevitably destroy themselves. The problem is who will they destroy on their way?
Putin kills his enemies in very obvious ways and then lies. Trump lies too. They will just keeping pretending until one of them wins out, or we all fall with them.
This is nothing to do with political ideaology but everything to do with greed. Trump's greed for money and Putin's greed for power.
Europe needs to get real on this. The citizens of the US and Russia need to act too, otherwise we are all doomed.