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petra Sat 22-Feb-25 09:24:40

I wonder if there are any Ukrainians still alive who warned the government at the time ( 1994) when the USA, UK, and Russia persuaded Ukraine to give up their nuclear weapons.
I hope not. If only not to see that they were right.
They signed the Budapest Memorandum.

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 22-Feb-25 09:13:08

Churchview : yes. And he will be very proud of this.

Aldom Sat 22-Feb-25 09:12:58

Shinamae where have you seen this information please? I've searched and cannot find it.

Barleyfields Sat 22-Feb-25 09:12:53

A fair summary Churchview. A disgraceful situation.

Churchview Sat 22-Feb-25 09:08:45

So if this is right, has Trump not abused the situation of a country being on its knees to enrich the USA?

love0c Sat 22-Feb-25 09:04:40

WhitewaveMark2 I agree with your first sentence. I do not know what the future holds. I thought Russia was to give up some land they had taken and the same with Ukraine. So they both have to compromise. So both of them have 'achieved'. Have I got that wrong? I know the killing has to stop. Something has to change.

foxie48 Sat 22-Feb-25 08:55:59

We don't know what is in the latest Trump deal and it's not yet been agreed. No one wants this war to continue, no one apart from Putin wanted it in the first place but I hope Ukraine is treated fairly. Zelensky is a brave and inspirational leader and I hope he's protected when the war ends regardless of whether he's in politics or not. Too many of Putin's enemies fall out of windows or get poisoned!

Whitewavemark2 Sat 22-Feb-25 08:42:26

namsnanny I absolutely agree, but I have a real issue with awarding the aggressor.

This does not bode well for the future.

Namsnanny Sat 22-Feb-25 02:12:48

I know I won't be popular for saying this, but I shall be glad to see the killing stopped, and the countless children saved from trafficking.
Does that mean a peace keeping force will be stationed there?

MayBee70 Sat 22-Feb-25 01:42:38

It said on TRIP ( if I understood it correctly) that it’s a development fund, not aid, but people think they’re just giving money away.

Wyllow3 Sat 22-Feb-25 01:08:06

I'm not sure Zelensky has signed anything, headlines on CNN are that he has refused.

edition.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/trump-ukraine-mineral-deal-analysis/index.html

Wyllow3 Sat 22-Feb-25 00:39:05

And will they have full and free elections when peace returns!!! - not US or Russian.

Wyllow3 Sat 22-Feb-25 00:22:36

The devil is in the detail.

What territory is the Ukraine getting

Is the mineral deal for payment of past aid or for US support going forward to keep Russian at bay.

Whats in it for Russia to stop fighting?

Rosie51 Sat 22-Feb-25 00:13:01

There aren't words acceptable to GN to articulate my feelings on this development. I thought aid was aid, no strings........

MaizieD Sat 22-Feb-25 00:08:58

That’s not quite what this ABC news report is saying. It says ‘working on’ a new deal.

abcnews.go.com/International/ukraine-working-new-potential-deal-us-mineral-resources/story?id=119029044

nanna8 Fri 21-Feb-25 23:55:46

Strike a light ! I suppose he has no choice with withdrawal of American aid. Something had to give, so many people losing lives.

Shinamae Fri 21-Feb-25 23:33:02

Apparently, Zelensky surrenders to Trump and will sign mineral deal within hours..