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DOGE windfall cheques (checks) for Americans?

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 22-Feb-25 11:32:29

Today in the Telegraph:

“American households could be in for a windfall of thousands of dollars thanks to a dividend from the Department of Government Efficiency (Doge).

At least, that’s what Elon Musk claims.

But how much do taxpayers stand to benefit by? And will the proposal even materialise at all?

The amount that has been floated on social media would mean a $5,000 cheque being sent out – but ultimately, it depends on how much Doge can cut as it tears through the federal government looking for savings.

The concept originated with James Fishback, chief executive of investment firm Azoria, who pitched Mr Musk a proposal to “help make Doge real for millions of Americans”.

Under the scheme, 20 per cent of its savings would be set aside and handed back to the 79 million households which are “net payers of federal income tax”.

Mr Musk has declared he wants to trim the federal budget by $2 trillion by the time his agency wraps up in 2026.

If 20 per cent of that – $400 billion – is returned to taxpayers, then by Mr Fishback’s calculations it would mean $5,000 being sent to every home.

Of course, whether Doge will actually be able to find $2 trillion in savings is another matter altogether.

‘Cuts worth $50bn identified’
Scott Bessent, the treasury secretary, claims the agency has identified cuts worth $50 billion since it was created by Donald Trump a month ago.

Per household, this would be worth about $127.

Assuming Mr Fishback’s scheme gets the final sign-off from Mr Trump, then the true amount is likely to fall somewhere between those two amounts.”

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 22-Feb-25 14:49:36

Thank you FGT.
I have some questions for Mr Fishback ( splendid name btw)
Do we know if these calculations have taken into account severance pay for those who have been sacked? I'm not sure what such sums might be in the States.
Will those new unemployed be eligible for benefits, and if so, has that been costed, also?
Is there a timescale for these remunerations?

imaround Sat 22-Feb-25 14:52:39

They will never happen.

This is a fish hook stringing MAGA along.

In my opinion.

Wyllow3 Sat 22-Feb-25 14:59:12

The proposed eligibility criteria would result in billionaires like Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates receiving a DOGE Dividend check. In contrast, millions of working-class Americans—many of whom were prioritized in previous stimulus programs—would receive nothing

Note also that $5000 (thats £3958) won't go very far. It would buy half a reasonable second hand car. It won't pay for your health insurance for a year, nothing like:

"Health insurance average $8951 pa per single and $25.572 per family".

buffyfly9 Sat 22-Feb-25 14:59:41

You post some very good articles FGT, thank you. Although I read a lot of financial articles already, you often steer me to other things that I have missed.

Jane43 Sat 22-Feb-25 15:25:16

Chocolatelovinggran

Thank you FGT.
I have some questions for Mr Fishback ( splendid name btw)
Do we know if these calculations have taken into account severance pay for those who have been sacked? I'm not sure what such sums might be in the States.
Will those new unemployed be eligible for benefits, and if so, has that been costed, also?
Is there a timescale for these remunerations?

Many of those sacked received letters which mentioned ‘performance concerns’ this means they won’t receive any severance pay and possibly may affect their entitlement to unemployment benefit.
www.hrgrapevine.com/us/content/article/2025-02-18-federal-workers-dispute-performance-claims-in-doge-layoffs

Wyllow3 Sat 22-Feb-25 15:27:54

Reality checks

finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-mulls-giving-americans-165329483.html

finance.yahoo.com/news/doge-savings-estimates-fall-9-000444836.html

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 22-Feb-25 16:38:25

Jane43 , thank you. Hmm - so I wonder what are these people meant to use to pay their bills. A cheque from Mr Musk, particularly if it is nearer the 127 figure isn't going to be very useful.