China has told the US it is ready for any kind of war

The firm is Samsung and has been in the USA since 1978.

It was made possible by the CHIPS and Science Act, which was enacted by Biden in 2022

Read details here

"JUL 26, 2024
New Samsung Semiconductor Plant in Taylor, Texas
An investment by Samsung, spurred by funding from the CHIPS and Science Act, will create a new semiconductor plant in Taylor, Texas, to complement the company’s previous investment in chips in Austin, Texas."

www.americanprogress.org/article/new-samsung-semiconductor-plant-in-taylor-texas/#:~:text=Samsung%20invested%20approximately%20%2417%20billion,the%20CHIPS%20and%20Science%20Act.

Credit where its due, nothing to do with Trump

Luckygirl3

love0c

Not at all. Trump knows China is the threat. Hence he has managed to get the world's largest chip manufacturer to build their factory in Texas. Lured them away from Taiwan. Other large companies now which need chips in their products will no doubt also move to America. America will grow. China will lose business. Very good for the whole world. China is a threat to us all. People need to wake up to this real threat. Starter most definitely needs to wake up!

And you don't think this might be regarded as provocation? - as one of the types of war that China is referring to?

Hence he has managed to get the world's largest chip manufacturer to build their factory in Texas. - really? A bit of a miracle in just a few weeks!

Hence he has managed to get the world's largest chip manufacturer to build their factory in Texas. Lured them away from Taiwan.

It has been welcomed by the Taiwanese company's CEO,
but this could possibly benefit China and weaken Taiwan. Opposition leaders there are concerned this could leave Taiwan vulnerable and, let's face it, Trump will only be doing this if it's beneficial to him. He won't care at all about Taiwan.

love0c

Not at all. Trump knows China is the threat. Hence he has managed to get the world's largest chip manufacturer to build their factory in Texas. Lured them away from Taiwan. Other large companies now which need chips in their products will no doubt also move to America. America will grow. China will lose business. Very good for the whole world. China is a threat to us all. People need to wake up to this real threat. Starter most definitely needs to wake up!

And you don't think this might be regarded as provocation? - as one of the types of war that China is referring to?

Hence he has managed to get the world's largest chip manufacturer to build their factory in Texas. - really? A bit of a miracle in just a few weeks!

Have you forgotten this too, David1949?
China has been accused of committing crimes against humanity and possibly genocide against the Uyghur population and other mostly-Muslim ethnic groups in the north-western region of Xinjiang.

Human rights groups believe China has detained more than one million Uyghurs against their will over the past few years in a large network of what the state calls "re-education camps", and sentenced hundreds of thousands to prison terms.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-22278037

Amongst the people I know some are refusing to buy from China. I know I have quite a few items that were made in China and I will be more careful in future.

If you had any idea David, of how China tortured Tibetans, destroyed their monasteries and culture, insisted they only speak chinese, and killed hundreds of thousands in their genocide you might be slightly more aware of their potential to harm other countries.. not just India

David49

AGAA4

mum2three

What a pity more people don't think ahead and consider the consequences of their actions!
We now rely too much on China for our goods and this makes us very vulnerable.
This government should be helping British firms instead of encouraging more imports.

It's all down to money. Goods made in China are often cheaper but I would rather pay a bit more if I could buy the same thing made in the UK.

The inevitable is a leveling up of their lifestyle and a leveling down of ours, so it all depends whether you are willing to reduce your lifestyle to improve lifestyle in China.

I don’t think it’s going to be about reducing our lifestyle for most people in the UK, it’s going to be about getting rid of excess. Electronics manufacture is our one major weakness in Europe, everything else we can buy made either in the UK or Europe - with a bit of effort on our part to seek it out.

AGAA4

mum2three

What a pity more people don't think ahead and consider the consequences of their actions!
We now rely too much on China for our goods and this makes us very vulnerable.
This government should be helping British firms instead of encouraging more imports.

It's all down to money. Goods made in China are often cheaper but I would rather pay a bit more if I could buy the same thing made in the UK.

The inevitable is a leveling up of their lifestyle and a leveling down of ours, so it all depends whether you are willing to reduce your lifestyle to improve lifestyle in China.

mum2three

What a pity more people don't think ahead and consider the consequences of their actions!
We now rely too much on China for our goods and this makes us very vulnerable.
This government should be helping British firms instead of encouraging more imports.

It's all down to money. Goods made in China are often cheaper but I would rather pay a bit more if I could buy the same thing made in the UK.

What a pity more people don't think ahead and consider the consequences of their actions!
We now rely too much on China for our goods and this makes us very vulnerable.
This government should be helping British firms instead of encouraging more imports.

They already refer to it as the Chinese republic of Taiwan, according to their mail. Giving back Hong Kong didn’t go so well, either. It has never been the same since. On balance I’d sooner be a vassal of the USA than China any tick of the clock. Even with Trump in charge.

The US has further annoyed China by dropping "Washington does not support independence for Taiwan" from it's website.
China believes this will open the doors to those campaigning for Taiwan to be independent.

pascal30

David49

China has never been aggressive in a military way, except for Taiwan, so far, it’s only recently that its military has become a match for the US.
Sanctions on Russia has pushed them closer to China which is not a good thing for the west.

Most of Chinas military is concentrated on defence and controlling its own population, It doesn’t have a global reach as the US does, it doesn’t concern itself with other nations politics as long as it gets the resources it wants

What about Tibet???

I’d forgotten Tibet, more to the point there are several border disputes with India as well, in the future we do need to watch how China is dominating other countries.

David49

China has never been aggressive in a military way, except for Taiwan, so far, it’s only recently that its military has become a match for the US.
Sanctions on Russia has pushed them closer to China which is not a good thing for the west.

Most of Chinas military is concentrated on defence and controlling its own population, It doesn’t have a global reach as the US does, it doesn’t concern itself with other nations politics as long as it gets the resources it wants

What about Tibet???

On the Chinese military non aggression oint I'm inclined to agree with you, David (now there's a surprise)

China has never been aggressive in a military way, except for Taiwan, so far, it’s only recently that its military has become a match for the US.
Sanctions on Russia has pushed them closer to China which is not a good thing for the west.

Most of Chinas military is concentrated on defence and controlling its own population, It doesn’t have a global reach as the US does, it doesn’t concern itself with other nations politics as long as it gets the resources it wants

nanna8

Can’t see actual warfare. A bit more subtle I’d think!

Yes.
It's on its way already.

I'd seriously worry whether the soldier behind me might not share any of my (very British) set of values. My (ex armed forces) father explained that one to me decades ago - as he could see what was coming down the line even back in the 1970s and how you needed to know the other soldiers basically thought/acted the same way you did.

Good Lord!

Why don't you just come out and say it? No non native Brits in the British army please...😭

AGAA4

nanna8

Can’t see actual warfare. A bit more subtle I’d think!

Yes. Wars can be fought in different ways. No need for soldiers invading. Internet cables cut that would cause a lot of damage financially and weaken a country. There are other ways to create havoc for your enemy.l

You're very right on that one too - and there's a battery of ways an agressor country can fight and pile on the pressure besides the traditional "boots on the ground" approach. There would be one heck of a lot of problems for some countries (including ours) in fighting in the traditional way. Partly because it includes knowing your fellow soldiers share a basic set of common values etc and, as a woman, I'd seriously worry whether the soldier behind me might not share any of my (very British) set of values. My (ex armed forces) father explained that one to me decades ago - as he could see what was coming down the line even back in the 1970s and how you needed to know the other soldiers basically thought/acted the same way you did.

So - yep...the cable-cutting is worrying, enemies having access to our Internet is worrying, etc.

love0c

Not at all. Trump knows China is the threat. Hence he has managed to get the world's largest chip manufacturer to build their factory in Texas. Lured them away from Taiwan. Other large companies now which need chips in their products will no doubt also move to America. America will grow. China will lose business. Very good for the whole world. China is a threat to us all. People need to wake up to this real threat. Starter most definitely needs to wake up!

Either way = China wins re putting a stop to money-making from "chip" manufacture by Taiwan. I do have sympathies with Taiwan - with having this large aggressive neighbour there on their doorstep and I'm afraid I don't rate their chances against China. I'd almost be willing to lay a bet that Taiwan gets invaded by the Chinese next year - and they certainly have my sympathies on that (given what happened to Tibet and Hong Kong when China got their hands on them).

I was reading a pretty lucid article the other day re the Taiwanese economy being one that produces a lot of these "chips" and the rest of the world being rather dependant on them because of that. This was followed by the author saying "....and Japan is very heavily dependant on Taiwan's computer chips" and then saying ".....and that makes them likely to get involved if (when...!) China invades and ...bingo....World War 3".

I certainly followed the authors logic on that one. Hence, if I were any other country in the world that could do so = I'd try and get my own "chip" manufacturing capability well up to scratch - so as not to be dependant on what did/didn't happen re Taiwan. So that looks the likely reason to me as to why America is trying to attract "largest chip manufacturer" - and I'd be doing that too in their position.

But I've long believed every country needs to be as self-sufficient as possible in every way - and that includes ours.

nanna8

Can’t see actual warfare. A bit more subtle I’d think!

Yes. Wars can be fought in different ways. No need for soldiers invading. Internet cables cut that would cause a lot of damage financially and weaken a country. There are other ways to create havoc for your enemy.l

China has been building a railway across Mongolia to gain rare minerals. It will be interesting to see if USA does a deal with Russia for the minerals in Ukraine.. this is ultimately what all these threats are about.. gaining access to worlds minerals in order to become the worlds AI controller

Can’t see actual warfare. A bit more subtle I’d think!

nanna8

The Chinese are circling Australia with their warships. What’s that all about? Quite frightening. The only thing is, the Chinese already own half of Australia financially so perhaps that will protect us? We are not a strong country in a military sense and our leaders are not strong types,either.

I think China is an up and coming worry to the whole world in time.

Just sabre rattling.

China uses economic warfare very effectively. I can’t see it putting boots on the ground.