Trump dismantling the Education Dept.

Elegran

They seem to know nothing even about Canada, their nearest northern neighbour. The indoctrinated are putting lots of facts and statistics about Canada and US-Canada trade on the net, which are contradicted by replies by Canadians (with better spelling and grammar as well as sounding like more factual facts)

The differences between the best and worst educated in the US is quite shocking, especially as the US has been from the beginning a republic and a democracy. Interestingly, a comparison of the French and US constitutions highlights the emphasis on equality in the French constitution, but not the American one.

They seem to know nothing even about Canada, their nearest northern neighbour. The indoctrinated are putting lots of facts and statistics about Canada and US-Canada trade on the net, which are contradicted by replies by Canadians (with better spelling and grammar as well as sounding like more factual facts)

Norah

Cossy

Another disastrous EO might be signed this week, but apparently to close the department and its function in its entirety would take an act of congress.

It seems another move to keep education solely based on America and nothing else (?? 🤷🏻‍♀️) Seems Trump has no issue with English and Maths, but other subjects, in his opinion, might prove counter productive (?? 🤷🏻‍♀️)

Also what’s he’s doing will affect funding to places of education.

Madness, but no less or more mad than many if his EOs.

So no jobs, no healthcare, no education.

What a wonderful place America will be, Trumpland!

I wonder, part to his transgender, diversity, sexist agenda?

“I say it all the time, I’m dying to get back to do this. We will ultimately eliminate the federal Department of Education,” he said in September during a rally in Wisconsin. "We will drain the government education swamp and stop the abuse of your taxpayer dollars to indoctrinate America’s youth with all sorts of things that you don’t want to have our youth hearing,” Trump said.

It's not just about diversity. The curriculum in some bible belt states is dire. They learn hardly any geography or history and science is primitive, so pupils learn almost nothing about anything outside their own environment. It's the kind of stuff which was taught in the 19th century elementary schools in the UK.

absent

He is on record for saying that he "loves the uneducated".

Not surprising - they voted for him.

Education in some American states is already a disgrace. I've seen timetables comparing what's on offer in the Mid West and California and New York. Some of the Mid West states have a curriculum which doesn't go beyond what we would consider primary education - which maybe explains a lot. It certainly is a country of "haves" and "have nots".

He is on record for saying that he "loves the uneducated".

Cossy

*. "We will drain the government education swamp and stop the abuse of your taxpayer dollars to indoctrinate America’s youth with all sorts of things that you don’t want to have our youth hearing,” Trump said.*

What like Mr Trump, the truth perhaps?

Sounds too familiar. First you get rid of the intelligencia and those who don’t support your regime.

Casdon

I think it’s most likely going to lead to greater polarisation between states. More liberal states will probably not change much, but the bible states will clamp down. I don’t see much difference between that and what Muslim countries do - they could well end up with segregation between boys and girls ultimately.

Those states will still have to find the money to keep the schools open, I wonder how long MAGA supporters will be happy when their children can no longer even get the education they have now.

imaround

The problem is that MAGA wants to be the haves.

They are jeering people losing jobs. They are harassing public servants. They are celebrating Ukraines destruction. They are enjoying watching this be torn apart. They will gladly lose out to own "the libs".

It is like a group of toddlers have been unleashed.

Demented, possessed toddlers!

I think it’s most likely going to lead to greater polarisation between states. More liberal states will probably not change much, but the bible states will clamp down. I don’t see much difference between that and what Muslim countries do - they could well end up with segregation between boys and girls ultimately.

This will lead, presumably, to schools being " encouraged" to teach only an "approved" curriculum.
A good start to a successful dictatorship, straight from the songbook of China and Russia.
I take particular offence at people's work being referred to as a swamp.

imaround

This will be a disaster. The first students affected are those with disabilities. That funding will be stopped.

Rheybare also trying to institute a voucher system where the states give taxpayer their own money back to be spent at private schools. This ends up nearly bankrupting the state's and the for profit private schools increase tuition rates by the same amount of the tax credit. All the while defunding public schools.

This will eventually lead to only the rich being educated.

Trump isn't well known for his empathy towards anyone with a disability so although it saddens me, it is the measure of him.

The problem is that MAGA wants to be the haves.

They are jeering people losing jobs. They are harassing public servants. They are celebrating Ukraines destruction. They are enjoying watching this be torn apart. They will gladly lose out to own "the libs".

It is like a group of toddlers have been unleashed.

. "We will drain the government education swamp and stop the abuse of your taxpayer dollars to indoctrinate America’s youth with all sorts of things that you don’t want to have our youth hearing,” Trump said.

What like Mr Trump, the truth perhaps?

Cossy

Another disastrous EO might be signed this week, but apparently to close the department and its function in its entirety would take an act of congress.

It seems another move to keep education solely based on America and nothing else (?? 🤷🏻‍♀️) Seems Trump has no issue with English and Maths, but other subjects, in his opinion, might prove counter productive (?? 🤷🏻‍♀️)

Also what’s he’s doing will affect funding to places of education.

Madness, but no less or more mad than many if his EOs.

So no jobs, no healthcare, no education.

What a wonderful place America will be, Trumpland!

I wonder, part to his transgender, diversity, sexist agenda?

“I say it all the time, I’m dying to get back to do this. We will ultimately eliminate the federal Department of Education,” he said in September during a rally in Wisconsin. "We will drain the government education swamp and stop the abuse of your taxpayer dollars to indoctrinate America’s youth with all sorts of things that you don’t want to have our youth hearing,” Trump said.

Surely it must be dawning on all US citizens whose heads contain at least one brain cell that this President is not working for THEM.

He is turning the USA into a divided land of Have-it-alls and the Have-nots, where there is no certainty that working hard at two or three full-time jobs, going to church on Sundays or being law-abiding, not having lots of children, and never wasting time and money on frivolities like travelling abroad or being ill will not prevent you from having permanent membership of the Have-nots party.

This will be a disaster. The first students affected are those with disabilities. That funding will be stopped.

Rheybare also trying to institute a voucher system where the states give taxpayer their own money back to be spent at private schools. This ends up nearly bankrupting the state's and the for profit private schools increase tuition rates by the same amount of the tax credit. All the while defunding public schools.

This will eventually lead to only the rich being educated.

Thanks for replies. I must read up more!

Juggling garden, reading and a bit of spring cleaning.

Garden winning as it is beautiful and windless days we have had all week.

Another disastrous EO might be signed this week, but apparently to close the department and its function in its entirety would take an act of congress.

It seems another move to keep education solely based on America and nothing else (?? 🤷🏻‍♀️) Seems Trump has no issue with English and Maths, but other subjects, in his opinion, might prove counter productive (?? 🤷🏻‍♀️)

Also what’s he’s doing will affect funding to places of education.

Madness, but no less or more mad than many if his EOs.

So no jobs, no healthcare, no education.

What a wonderful place America will be, Trumpland!

Except the states won't be given the budget to run education from central government and then other areas will lose out on funding instead. That's his plan

I have read an article about it in Forbes and it seems that some functions would be devolved to other departments and other functions to state, as opposed to federal, responsibility.

Without really knowing anything about educational administration in the USA, I am not sure how drastic a change this would be. Judging from other sweeping changes Trump has made, I have the feeling it will be bad news for quite a few people.

He is going to give education to each state to manage rather than from central government.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c79zxzj90nno.amp

edition.cnn.com/2024/09/20/politics/department-of-education-shut-down-trump/index.html